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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by sst✈(discuss) 18:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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Elizabeth Cadbury-Brown

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Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:12, 24 October 2015 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The hook is properly cited; however, I believe that clarification, both in the article and here, of her contribution to the RCA building (Darwin House, right?) is needed, as it is usually attributed to Cadbury-Brown, Hugh Casson and Robert Goodden (the Guardian says her contribution was "emotional support" – no comment!). This article might help.
    Green tickY Hook is now adequately cited.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - I'd change the wording to " … that the architects …" – it's obvious from the names that they're a couple
    Green tickY Now done, thank you!
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very nice little article, well written and and well referenced; should be fine once the minor gripes above are dealt with. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

  • @Justlettersandnumbers: Thanks for the very prompt review! The hook fact is cited to the Telegraph article which says they worked together but mentions that Elizabeth was specifically responsible for the Gulbenkian Hall – I've added this detail to the article. I'm afraid I couldn't access the article you suggested but hopefully this is sufficient. I've altered the hook wording per your suggestion, and as for the close paraphrasing hits, I think they are negligible (they are very short phrases which cannot or don't need to be paraphrased, like "the Royal Institute of British Architects" or "lecture theatres at Essex University"). 97198 (talk) 13:15, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
  • 97198, I've rephrased a couple of things in the article to remove any remaining similarity to the sources (I know from bitter experience that those minor similarities can arise even when you write your own text without looking at the sources – the brain plays little tricks); and you've generously changed the wording of the hook. I'm stuck on the factual accuracy. I didn't add that potential source to Royal College of Art, someone else did, and I haven't read it; but other sources such as this one do also seem to confirm that the architects were Casson, Goodden and Jim Cadbury-Brown. Can we find another source that mentions her? Would you like me to ask for a second opinion here (as a newbie reviewer, I'm more than willing to do that)? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:52, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • 97198, I've added two sources to the page that specifically mention her rôle in the RCA building, so I reckon this is good to go now. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:16, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Adding the necessary tick. I agree with the assessment of Justlettersandnumbers and have checked the sourcing of the hook facts. I cannot access the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography so that one is accepted in good faith, and the Concrete Quarterly fully supports the hook. Good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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