Template:Did you know nominations/England in the High Middle Ages
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The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 18:57, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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England in the High Middle Ages
- ... that the Anglo Saxon elite of England was replaced with a new class of Norman nobility during the High Middle Ages with a government that can be described as feudal? Source: Carpenter 2004, p. 4; Davies 1990, p. 20; Huscroft 2005, p. 81 , Carpenter 2004, pp. 84–85; Barlow 1999, pp. 88–89
- ALT1: ... that patriarchal gender roles become more sharply defined for England in the High Middle Ages, with some of that to do with the new feudal system? Source: Johns 2003, pp. 25, and 195–196; Mate 2006, pp. 20–21
- ALT2: ... that in the beginning of the High Middle Ages, Englishmen were associated with military failure and serfdom, but by the end were seen as superior to the Celtic fringe? Source: Carpenter 2004, pp. 6–7 , Davies 1990, pp. 20–22
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Willi Ritschard
- Comment: More hooks welcome because there is definitely a lot that could be made here.
Improved to Good Article status by Unlimitedlead (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 03:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/England in the High Middle Ages; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- GA, despite which the article has non-DYK issues. The High Middle Ages generally is "the period of European history that lasted from AD 1000 to 1300" - approx of course. A start at 1066 is normal for English history, but here the period stops at 1216. Are there sources for this? It gives a period of 150 years, exactly half the normal. 1216 is not really taken as a major milestone by historians in my experience. The culture section is pretty pathetic and the lead paras too long. AGF on all 3 hooks, though the first may be too long? Johnbod (talk) 14:22, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Johnbod Unlimitedlead Onegreatjoke Trying to figure out the very high earwig score. Any ideas? Lightburst (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not sure. The phrases highlighted at earwig date from 2014 on this article, and the low-quality blogs earwig pulled up have no date attached them. Additionally, they do not cite any of their sources, making this whole thing very suspicious. I suspect it may be an instance of blogs copying from Wikipedia yet again. Unlimitedlead (talk) 22:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Almost certainly. The top one "December 1, 1135: Death of Henry I, King of the English" seems to have been posted 1 December 2022. Johnbod (talk) 02:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- I will accept that websites have copied from Wikipedia. Lightburst (talk) 18:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Almost certainly. The top one "December 1, 1135: Death of Henry I, King of the English" seems to have been posted 1 December 2022. Johnbod (talk) 02:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not sure. The phrases highlighted at earwig date from 2014 on this article, and the low-quality blogs earwig pulled up have no date attached them. Additionally, they do not cite any of their sources, making this whole thing very suspicious. I suspect it may be an instance of blogs copying from Wikipedia yet again. Unlimitedlead (talk) 22:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Johnbod Unlimitedlead Onegreatjoke Trying to figure out the very high earwig score. Any ideas? Lightburst (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)