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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 00:41, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Garageland (song)

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Created/expanded by Pjoef (talk), Benzband (talk). Nominated by Benzband (talk) at 18:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Length checks out fine: 4866 characters; Date of creation also good: November 2, 2011 (move from userspace); the quote is paraphrased, which given the use of quotation marks is inappropriate. If it is a quote, then quote it directly, otherwise remove the speech marks. The article is inconsistent within itself, sometimes using double quotation marks ("Garageland") and sometimes single ('Garageland'). Murray's quote describing the band as "the greatest rock band in the world" is unreferenced. Per WP:MOS, quotations should not be in italics. I'm also concerned that the article quotes a lot of the song; most likely more than is necessary in an article of this length.

There are some examples of very close paraphrasing, bordering on copyvio:

  • article: "The Clash responded by immediately writing the song 'Garageland', .."
  • source: "The Clash responded by immediately writing the song "Garageland." .."

Harrias talk 16:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

  • I reworded the passage that Harrias cites. It appears to me that the article is a strung-together collection of somewhat disconnected (and occasionally contradictory) facts; it would benefit from a revision by somebody who knows and cares enough about the band to provide some coherence for the information provided, while expunging any additional copyvio wording. The hook idea is good and the hook fact is supported by cited sources, but the quotation seems to be invalid and the hook includes some distracting details. I'd reword it as follows:
  • ALT1 ... that a critic's calling The Clash a "garage band" that ought to be "returned to the garage ... with the motor still running" prompted the band to write the song "Garageland"? --Orlady (talk) 22:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Support obviously (that is, if i'm allowed) - benzband (talk) 09:48, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Issues: (update in progress)
    • Paraphrased sentence:  Done by Orlady
    • Other possible paraphrasing:
    • Italics:  Done by Benzband
    • Quotation marks:  Done by Casliber
    • Reference for "the greatest rock band in the world":  Done by Benzband: "Screen on the Green - Islington". BlackMarketClash.com. Retrieved 2011-11-27.
    • Over-use of song lyrics:
- benzband (talk) 09:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
I have fixed the quotation marks, the frequency of song lyrics is fine by me so I am happy with that.Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
It looks this gets a tickmark now. --Orlady (talk) 15:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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