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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 23:31, 21 April 2013 (UTC).
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Gene Hobbs
edit- ... that Gene Hobbs, a regular contributor to Wikipedia's scuba articles, was named the 2010 Divers Alert Network/Rolex Diver of the year?
Created by Wikirich42 (talk). Nominated by RexxS (talk) at 01:00, 13 April 2013 (UTC).
Article does not state that he is a "a regular contributor to Wikipedia's scuba articles". Not quite sure if the rest is "hooky" enough to appear on the front page (perhaps others could comment?) The "citation needed" tags have to be addressed. Otherwise, article length and date and hook length are ok. Sasata (talk) 17:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- Article now comments on Gene's Wikipedia activities. I would have thought that one of our regular editors getting a prestigious award like "DAN Diver of the Year" was a pretty novel fact. YMMV, of course. Gene has confirmed all of the information challenged on the article talk page, but I've asked him for a link to his published CV to give us an external source for the info. I'll comment again when those tags are fixed (unless others feel that Gene's confirmation is sufficient already?). --RexxS (talk) 22:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- All "citation needed" tags now resolved by reference to Gene's CV on RRR. --RexxS (talk) 18:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm a bit worried about the reliability of some of the sources used, e.g. the Wikipedia contribution list, a facebook page, a twitter posting, a personal CV. Since this is a BLP, I'd rather have a second opinion before giving this the go-ahead. Sasata (talk) 21:50, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- I do understand your concerns about reliable sourcing - I've fought many battles to uphold the rigours of WP:MEDRS in places where it is appropriate, but a BLP of a notable Wikipedian is going to be a rather different beast. I don't intend to belittle your concerns, but WP:SELFPUB is clear that self-published sources are often reliable for facts about the subject themselves - subject to 5 conditions - and that includes facebook, twitter, etc. There is a certain amount of common sense in play as well - if someone challenges the fact that Gene lives in Durham NC, is it really insufficient for Gene to state "I live in Durham NC" (the opening sentence of his user page). Surely the easiest way to verify the fact that Gene is a regular editor is to look at his user contributions? There are 45 references in his BLP at present and the only facts referenced to the handful of self-published sources are completely personal ones - even the CV is published by the Rubicon Foundation. I'd be more than happy of course to hear other opinions - is there an easy way to call for them? --RexxS (talk) 22:47, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- The first thing I noticed is that this article is ref'd and written WAY ABOVE the norm for a DYK article. Rexx has a point, SELFPUB does list facebook and twitter by the subject themself as OK, so while one may not like them as refs, they are valid in this instance. As for the CV, I'm blind, which ref are we talking about? I also agree with Rexx that the hook is fine.PumpkinSky talk 23:23, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry about my lack of transparency on the CV - it's not obvious that it's Gene_Hobbs#cite_note-CV-2, which links to Gene's CV on the Rubicon Foundation site. --RexxS (talk) 00:22, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- As that's on an official organization site, I'd call that an RS too. I see no reason this can't be approved now.PumpkinSky talk 00:24, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
