Template:Did you know nominations/HMS Trent (1796)
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The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 15:25, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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HMS Trent (1796)
- ... that HMS Trent helped keep the Dutch in port by sending bogus signals to a non-existent fleet? Source: Anne Veronica Coates; Philip McDougal, eds. (2011). The Naval Mutinies of 1797: Unity and Perseverance. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9781782040057.
Created by Ykraps (talk). Self-nominated at 08:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/HMS Trent (1796); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Article is new enough and long enough. Going to have to AGF throughout since I don't have access to most of these sources. #4 seems OK even if the source text is a bit similar to the article text. #16 supports some of the claims. #18 does not mention Trent. Not seeing any NPOV issues. Plagiarism- and copyvio-wise, I see some text is repeated across articles on ships, things like "Carronades were lighter so could be manoeuvred with fewer men, and had a faster rate of fire but had a much shorter". I'd like to ask for a quote supporting the hook, 'specially since the ISBN link doesn't work. It is interesting however. QPQ is a bit basic but passable. Images seem fine. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I'm not sure I fully understand what you're asking. Which part isn't covered by #16? Re #18, James III p.142 clearly mentions Trent in the third paragraph. The copied text you refer to is solely mine so I believe is okay without attribution. The isbn is correct [[1]] so I'm not sure why it isn't working. The book states that, "Duncan ordered Trent and Circe to patrol the Texel and send out signals to a non-existent British fleet. The ruse proved successful and the Dutch fleet remained in harbour". --Ykraps (talk) 08:18, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
I must have missed the non-Google ISBNs. The copied text might be a problem regarding the length requirement, but this article's long enough that a few sentences don't make a difference. With #16 I meant that at least part of the claims cited to it are supported by the source, with the others presumably from the other source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
