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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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Halca (musician)

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  • ... that prior to making her major music debut, Halca performed a song for the 10th anniversary of an online novel publisher? Source: [1]
    • ALT1:... that singer Halca's interest in anime music began after learning that her home TV cable had an anime channel? Source: [2] ("halca：意識して聴きはじめたのは中学生ぐらいですね。私の家はケーブルテレビに入っていたので、24時間ずっとアニメが観られるチャンネルがあったんです。他の子がバラエティを観ているようなときにも、ずっとアニメを観ているような子供だったと思います。毎日アニメを観て、そこでアニソンが流れていてーー。")
    • ALT2:... that singer Halca won an anime song audition in 2013, but did not make her major debut until five years later? Source: [3] [4]

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:00, 16 April 2019 (UTC).

Solid facts on good sources, Japanese sources accepted AGF. - Please explain what "major music debut" means. In classical music, "debut" is the first (ever) public performance, which can be limited/specified by saying "at so-and-so theatre", but normally there's only one debut. - Given I'd understand that, the original hook sounds like trivia to me (unless it's someone important), ALT1 saying something that might be true for many girls singing. I'd not click for ALT2 but am ready to approve it once I understand. How about something she achieves, other than anybody else? The only thing which would made me want to get to know her. - Suggestions for the article: please look up "would" and drop it. It happened, or not, no need for "would". You may want to trim the prose:
"After deciding to pursue a career as a musician, Halca looked through various singing auditions. After discovering one called Utakatsu! Audition, which focused on anime songs, she decided to participate in it; she would end up winning the grand prize in 2013."
Could be:
"She took part in the Utakatsu! audition, which focused on anime songs, and won its grand prize in 2013."
I understand that you may end up being too short for DYK doing so, but don't rely too much on your readers' patience, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm currently on vacation and can only edit with my phone at the moment, so I might not be able go suggest a new hook or do the requested edits until next Saturday. But to respond to your question on ALT2, it meant to say she had passed an audition in 2013, but she did not actually properly start her professional music activities (i.e. start releasing music under a record label) until 2018. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:31, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
No rush, enjoy your vacation. Why not say "start releasing music under a record label" instead of "make her major debut"? Still nothing I'd want to know more about, though ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
To answer your question, "major [music] debut" is standard language in the pop music industry; unlike in classical music where it means their first performance, a "major debut" in pop music would mean that they released their first released, whether it be a single, an album, or others. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:02, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: Do you still plan on reviewing this nomination? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:13, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
    I noticed that you are back, but didn't know that you had time for this one. - Yes, but not first thing in the morning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:16, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: It's been over a week since your last comment here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
    (sorry, on vacation - as my talk page says). I don't like any of the hooks because none of them tells me a thing I want to know about a perofrmer, but I respect an author's choices. Please, consider changing some of the "would" in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but don't understand what's hooky about ALT2. What do you think about:
  • ALT3: ... that the first three singles released by Japanese musician Halca were used as closing themes for three different anime series? Yoninah (talk) 18:42, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
I have to admit that such a thing is actually very common if not the norm among anime musicians. Meaning, it's common practice for anime singers to perform theme songs for multiple series. With that said, if it is believed that such a hook would be appealing to those unfamiliar with the anime industry, then I have no problems with ALT3. Readership interest is paramount after all, not the editor's. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT3 also, no preference. I - as a reader - would like to know what's special and personal about her voice, which none of the hooks tells me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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