Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Raj (approver)

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 01:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Hans Raj (approver)

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... that Hans Raj organised a meeting at Jallianwala Bagh on 13 April 1919 and escaped the Jallianwala Bagh massacre? The meeting that day...had been arranged by a man named Hans Raj[1] who later escaped[2]
- ALT1:... that in 1919, Indian revolutionaries Satyapal and Saifuddin Kitchlew were convicted on the evidence given by Hans Raj? [3]
- ALT2...Hans Raj has been described as a "pariah of fortune", "a man of no character" and a "rudderless youth of an extremely dubious character".[4], [5]

Reviewed: Alexander Gillies

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 11:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting: - I am proposing a different hook

QPQ: Done.

Overall: *ALT3... that to this day it is not known if Hans Raj, who turned state's witness for the British Raj, had been a police agent all along? (Requires inline citation which is presently lacking.) Havradim (talk) 05:52, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing @Havradim:....I don't mind which hook, although ALT2 I thought might work. Everyone appears to agree he was suspicious. I tweaked yours a little to make Alt3a. Someone may have an alternative suggestion.

ALT3a...Historians have disputed whether Hans Raj, who turned state's witness for the British Raj, had been a police agent all along? Hans Raj's role, however, is contested history. Some Indian historians have argued that Jallianwala Bagh was a planned massacre, alleging that Hans Raj was a British spy who collaborated with Dyer, who wanted to punish Indians for the violence that had preceded the massacre ... Most British historians, however, either make little mention of Hans Raj or play down his role in the incident ... Most popular retellings of the incident—school textbooks ... etc.. or films and documentaries—simply omit Hans Raj[6] ... believed by some historians that Hans Raj was in league with local police[7]Whispyhistory (talk) 13:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for adding inline citations Whispyhistory. I will do some further tweaking to add more accurate terminology:

ALT3b ... that historians have not concluded whether Hans Raj turned state's evidence for the British Raj, or if he had been a police agent all along?

I think ALT2 leaves too much to the imagination without framing what the subject was all about. At least as far as I am concerned, ALT3b is good to go. ALT1 would be my second choice. Havradim (talk) 13:44, 20 December 2019 (UTC)