Template:Did you know nominations/Herron Gymnasium
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
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Herron Gymnasium
edit- ... that John W. Herron, namesake of Miami University's former Herron Gymnasium, refused to allow his name to adorn the building? Source: The Miami Student, 1905
ALT1:... that the exterior of Miami University's former Herron Gymnasium, named for Cincinnati judge John W. Herron, read "The Miami Gymnasium" because Herron refused to allow his name on the building?Source: The Miami Student, 1905ALT2:... that Cincinnati judge John W. Herron was too modest to allow Miami University to have his name placed on its Herron Gymnasium building?Source: The Miami Student, 1905- ALT3 ...that Miami University's Herron Gymnasium, listed on the National Register of Historic Places, was torn down and replaced with a parking lot? Source: The Miami Student, 1986
- Reviewed: Exempt: Less than 5 DYKs.
- Comment: Open to suggestions on more concise hooks. Trying to get across that Herron was too modest to have his name on the building, as that is what the source says.
5x expanded by Etzedek24 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough. I can't access many of the sources and #3 is unreadable to me, but of these I can: I don't see #4 mentioning the urban legend, and #5 does not discuss Margaret Phillips.
After 1962, the building was primarily used by Miami's AFROTC program and men's intramural sports.
is unsourced and so isto the National Register of Historic Places in November 1979, but was demolished in 1984 when the university expanded the parking lot of Roudebush Hall, Miami's administration building.
Some of the lead content is also unsupported, both are adequately sourced. I was thinking that "...that Cincinnati judge John W. Herron was too modest to allow the Herron Gymnasium to be named after him?" might be more interesting but I dunno. First hook is a mite more interesting than ALT1. No copyvio or plagiarism that I can see. QPQ exception applies. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:36, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I'm curious as to why you cannot access the sources, they should all be public websites. I added a better (digitized) version of the Buildings of Miami source you said was unreadable (and the AFROTC cite was from there), and added coverage of the building's demolition from the Miami student newspaper which corrects the demolition dates. The urban legend is briefly mentioned at the end of the "Moving the Gym" archive blog post, but I added an additional source that covers it in more detail. Also, Phillips is definitely mentioned in the recreation history cite (now ref #6). Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 19:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
The building was used continuously as a women's gym until 1962, except for a brief time during World War II when the gym served as barracks for the Navy Radio School that operated at Miami.
needs a source still. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:24, 9 September 2018 (UTC)- Fixed. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 19:25, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 19:25, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I'm curious as to why you cannot access the sources, they should all be public websites. I added a better (digitized) version of the Buildings of Miami source you said was unreadable (and the AFROTC cite was from there), and added coverage of the building's demolition from the Miami student newspaper which corrects the demolition dates. The urban legend is briefly mentioned at the end of the "Moving the Gym" archive blog post, but I added an additional source that covers it in more detail. Also, Phillips is definitely mentioned in the recreation history cite (now ref #6). Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 19:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Article is new enough and long enough. I can't access many of the sources and #3 is unreadable to me, but of these I can: I don't see #4 mentioning the urban legend, and #5 does not discuss Margaret Phillips.
- Comment I think the first hook is the best of the lot. A lot of recent DYK hooks have been needlessly wordy (and bland). Less is more. (although there's there's also some dark humor in a National Historic Place being replaced by a parking lot). --Animalparty! (talk) 02:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- I like that. Struck others and added it. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 03:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- on the ALT3 as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:07, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- I like that. Struck others and added it. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 03:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC)