Template:Did you know nominations/Hypericum aegypticum
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hypericum aegypticum
- ... that for unknown reasons, Hypericum aegypticum does not follow the Primula system, but instead has dominant pins and recessive thrums? Source: "Only in Hypericum... is the genetic situation reversed with pins the heterozygous morph and thrums the homozygous morph"
"There is no obvious explanation for the prevalence of the second (Primula) genetic system for distyly over the first (Hypericum)" The Genetics of Heterostyly in Hypericum aegypticum- ALT1: ... that Hypericum aegypticum exhibits a rare form of heterostyly? Source: Same sources as above, just a stripped down hook.
- Reviewed: Elmer P. Wheaton
5x expanded by Fritzmann2002 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 7 December 2021 (UTC).
While this article is interesting and well-written (although possibly a bit technical), it has not been sufficiently expanded. The recent expansion raised it from 4.8kb to 21.7k, only a 4.5-fold expansion, while five-fold is required. So the article is long enough and within policy, but not "new" enough. If it were further expanded, it would be fine.
- The alternate hook is quite good: punchy-quick, makes you want to find out more. I would suggest using it if the article were to qualify. Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 03:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Piledhigheranddeeper: Hello, thank you for the review! Unless I'm mistaken, the expansion is 5x based on the DYK material, that being prose characters. Using the DYK checker tool, the original article was 1029 characters, while the expansion is 9931 characters, a roughly 10x expansion. Is there a different way this is calculated? If so I can scrounge around for enough info to fill a few thousand more bytes. I 100% agree that a stripped down hook is better, what are your thoughts on this one: "... that Hypericum aegypticum exhibits a rare form of heterostyly with dominant pins and recessive thrums?" Just has a bit more meat to it, in my opinion. Very Respectfully, Fritzmann (message me) 16:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- I believe you're right, and I did use the wrong figure. Apologies for that! As to the revised hook, my only concern is that you are introducing three new (to most) terms, which might be a bit intimidating to the average reader. The original alternate hook's beauty was that it had only one unusual term, and it was linked, practically inviting the reader to click on it to see what it was. But I can defer to wiser minds... Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Looking back at it I think the ALT1 is the way to go, definitely. I'll get right on doing a QPQ, thank you again! Fritzmann (message me) 18:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- With that, I'd say "
"! Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 15:03, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- With that, I'd say "
- Looking back at it I think the ALT1 is the way to go, definitely. I'll get right on doing a QPQ, thank you again! Fritzmann (message me) 18:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- I believe you're right, and I did use the wrong figure. Apologies for that! As to the revised hook, my only concern is that you are introducing three new (to most) terms, which might be a bit intimidating to the average reader. The original alternate hook's beauty was that it had only one unusual term, and it was linked, practically inviting the reader to click on it to see what it was. But I can defer to wiser minds... Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Piledhigheranddeeper: Hello, thank you for the review! Unless I'm mistaken, the expansion is 5x based on the DYK material, that being prose characters. Using the DYK checker tool, the original article was 1029 characters, while the expansion is 9931 characters, a roughly 10x expansion. Is there a different way this is calculated? If so I can scrounge around for enough info to fill a few thousand more bytes. I 100% agree that a stripped down hook is better, what are your thoughts on this one: "... that Hypericum aegypticum exhibits a rare form of heterostyly with dominant pins and recessive thrums?" Just has a bit more meat to it, in my opinion. Very Respectfully, Fritzmann (message me) 16:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
