- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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Jex Blackmore
Still from "One hundred pounds of rotten fruit while awaiting her second abortion", 2019
- ... that Jex Blackmore is a pro-choice Satanist who did performance art with 100 lbs. of rotten fruit (pictured) before their second abortion? Source: https://msmagazine.com/2022/02/01/jex-blackmore-abortion-pill-live-tv-fox-news-medication-abortion/
- ALT1:
... that Jex Blackmore surprised a Fox TV host in Detroit by taking a mail order pill to start their third abortion on live television?Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/26/jex-blackmore-tv-abortion-pill/ - Reviewed:
- Comment: Use the same image for the ALT1 work? An alternative hook could feature her Satanist work, such as organizing the "largest public satanic ceremony in history" and a "Snaketivity" display at the Michigan Capitol.
- ALT1:
Article images obtained from Blackmore, who has submitted the permission release.
Created by ProfGray (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.ProfGray (talk) 02:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, and I do my QPQs first so would not get to this any time soon (but would not object to anybody else jumping in in the interim); refs 5, 8, 19, and 26 have errors, and I'd want to see a very good reason why WP:IMDB is being used on a BLP. I also recommend explicitly citing their pronouns with a source that specifically says "uses they/them pronouns" or somesuch, like I've done at Charlie Deakin Davies. (A good article would state exactly when they began using them if available, but that's probably going beyond the DYK criteria.)--Launchballer 08:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I corrected the 4 refs, replaced IMDb with The New Republic, and created a note about pronouns. The note links to two Internet Archive captures, which is the best source I know about. It was helpful to see your note example. Thanks for your help and please let me know of any other changes that would improve the article. ProfGray (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
(Any excuse to plug one of my favourite musicians.) I should have said WP:JEZEBEL shouldn't have been in there either, but as everything was already in Cosmopolitan I took it out myself. WP:EL says external links "normally should not be placed in the body of an article", but as this is a note and the alternatives would be either violating WP:REFPUNCT or WP:SEAOFBLUE I'm IARing it. I also propose the following ALT, which I may come back to, as a rewording of ALT0:- ALT0.5: ... that the pro-choice Satanist Jex Blackmore did performance art with 100 pounds (45 kg) of rotten fruit (pictured) before their second abortion?
- Full review needed. (And I strongly recommend that any subsequent promoter puts this in the image slot.)--Launchballer 15:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I corrected the 4 refs, replaced IMDb with The New Republic, and created a note about pronouns. The note links to two Internet Archive captures, which is the best source I know about. It was helpful to see your note example. Thanks for your help and please let me know of any other changes that would improve the article. ProfGray (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Article is new enough and long enough. It is well-sourced, presentable, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Earwig is only picking up quotes. The hooks are cited and interesting. I suggest expanding the lead a bit as it is rather short, at one sentence. Images used in the articles are freely licensed, though the VRTS email is awaiting processing. The image renders well at a small size and works well with ALT0 and ALT0.5. If the caption is used as is, I would italicize the name of the performance artwork. ALT1 mentions that the pill is 'mail order' which is not explicit in the article. Also the mail order link is to a disambiguation page, so I'm striking it until those issues are fixed. QPQ is not required. gobonobo + c 14:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks you for your comments here, plus your edits. I agree it'd be good to expand the lead. And italicizing the artwork title. Would you be fine with deleting the phrase "mail order" from ALT1? Or maybe: "by taking a pill, available by mail, to start their third abortion on live television?" For a suitable link, this article discusses mail order access to the abortion pill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mifepristone#In_the_United_States Thanks again, ProfGray (talk) 18:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ProfGray: I'd suggest leaving the mail order and the "in Detroit" parts out as I don't think they add much. Something punchier, along the lines of ... a pro-choice Satanist took a pill to induce their third abortion during a live debate on Fox television? could work here as well. Feel free to add a few ALTs if you want. gobonobo + c 19:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's great, though I'd keep in their name: ...Jex Blackmore, a pro-choice Satanist, took a pill to induce their third abortion during a live debate on Fox television?
- It's great that you and others with more experience are improving the hook(s).ProfGray (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Of course. Let's make that ALT2.
- ALT2: ... that Jex Blackmore, a pro-choice Satanist, took a pill to induce their third abortion during a live debate on Fox television?
- ALTs 0, 0.5. and 2 look good to me. gobonobo + c 22:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @ProfGray: I'd suggest leaving the mail order and the "in Detroit" parts out as I don't think they add much. Something punchier, along the lines of ... a pro-choice Satanist took a pill to induce their third abortion during a live debate on Fox television? could work here as well. Feel free to add a few ALTs if you want. gobonobo + c 19:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks you for your comments here, plus your edits. I agree it'd be good to expand the lead. And italicizing the artwork title. Would you be fine with deleting the phrase "mail order" from ALT1? Or maybe: "by taking a pill, available by mail, to start their third abortion on live television?" For a suitable link, this article discusses mail order access to the abortion pill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mifepristone#In_the_United_States Thanks again, ProfGray (talk) 18:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)