Template:Did you know nominations/Jie Zhitui

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:35, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Jie Zhitui

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... that, after the Duke of Jin supposedly burned Jie Zhitui alive, the people of Taiyuan stopped cooking their food to avoid angering his ghost?
- ALT1:... that the people of Shanxi once thought that the spirit of Jie Zhitui would send hail and other bad weather if they cooked their food?
- ALT2:... that Jiexiu, China, was built over the forest that Jie Zhitui‘s boss set on fire trying to get him to go back to work?
- ALT3:... that, when Master Jie sang "The Dragon and the Snake", Prince Chong'er burst into tears?
- ALT4:... that Chinese legend holds that, after Jie Zhitui refused his mother's suggestion that he get a job, she followed him into the forest and they were both burnt alive by his would-be boss?
- ALT5:... that Jie Zhitui thought his fellow ministers were worse than thieves for seeking credit for Heaven's work?
- ALT6:... that Jie Zhitui, who loyally followed Prince Chong'er in exile for almost 20 years, was supposedly burned alive because he did not want to ask for any reward once his lord was restored to power?
- ALT7:... that Jie Zhitui, who loyally followed Prince Chong'er in exile for almost 20 years, retired in disgust once his lord was restored to power?
- ALT8:... that Jie Zhitui—whose commemoration developed into China's Tomb Sweeping Festival—composed a song with the moral that, to be cheerful, you can't look back?
- ALT9:... that Jie Zhitui was revered as a Taoist immortal?

Reviewed: ~~Will do~~ "Pickle Rick"
Comment: Note to potential reviewers: Don't worry—you just need to review the hook(s) that are most interesting to you.
Also, pending some improvement in his ability to process DYK entries, User:Zanhe should just choose another entry to review.

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 18:41, 7 December 2017 (UTC).

LlywelynII, new, in time, long enough, sourced, neutral. Needs QPQ. Also, inline citations are needed for the hooks, and ALT2 does not seem to appear in the article. Not related to this review, I would also add the story about the burning of the forest to the body of the article, not just the lead, and correct footnotes 22, 23, and 52. --Usernameunique (talk) 08:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I had provided the legendary part of the story at Cold Food Festival and some related pages but apparently not here (oops); also thought the QPQ was done, but if I forgot to note it here, I'll just do another one. Back in a bit.. — LlywelynII 01:48, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

QPQ done. — LlywelynII 11:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for providing the QPQ, LlywelynII. The remaining issues are:

ALT0 is not in the article.
ALT2 is not cited in the article.
ALT6 is not cited in the article. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:27, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Yup, I'm aware and adding the legendary bits already. ALT6 is already covered, but I'll do the other ones soon. If it's an emergency, there's ALT6 and generic forms of the story have sourcing that can be cut and pasted from the Mt Mian, Cold Food Festival, and Tomb Sweeping Festival pages. For Jie Zhitui's page, it's taking a bit longer since I wanted to go source by source as the legend got embellished/recorded. I'm through the Songs of Chu, Han Feizi, and Zhuangzi, but still need to see if I can find an English form of Master Lü's Spring and Autumn Annals before I fill in the rest with the modern form of the myth. — LlywelynII 06:54, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Nixing ALT2 since it reflects some unsourced statements in the articles here on Wikipedia but Jiexiu actually received its name centuries later and from its administration of Mt Mian, not because it was the site of Jie's hermitage. — LlywelynII 04:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry for the holdup, but everything should be copacetic now. Unstruck the hooks (apart from ALT2) since no reason was given, the old reviewer might be busy, and a new reviewer might like one of them. — LlywelynII 13:34, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

LlywelynII, ALT0 is still not in the article—there's a link to the Cold Food Festival, but nothing that actually says 'people stopped cooking their food.' I've also restruck the other hooks, which I found less interesting; in the future, I would recommend waiting for the original reviewer to return (hence your ping) before thinking about undoing parts of their review. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

With respect, it's already in the article repeatedly. Without fire, they (definitionally) can't cook. They didn't have microwaves or know about ceviche at the time. You just need the verb "cook"?

Done. — LlywelynII 21:28, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Works for me. LlywelynII, non-DYK but citations 8, 27, 28, 40, 72, and 76 need to be fixed. --Usernameunique (talk) 05:53, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the head's up and for not holding up the nomination over it. Some of them were just bad formatting [fixed], but others are just as good as the formatting gets with our current system. Whoever programmed the {{citation}} template and/or the citation styles it uses weren't interested in supporting multiple anchors or dates to a single reference. The cites are still there and we can add the anchors ourselves, but it's not going to light up the same way. — LlywelynII 06:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)