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The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 20:43, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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John Goldmark

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  • ... that John Goldmark brought a libel suit that "[did] to the Red Scare what the Scopes monkey trial had... done to Creationism"? Source: Scott, Kelli (January 18, 2019). "The legacy of John E. Goldmark". The Wenatchee World. Retrieved April 29, 2023.

Created by Sammielh (talk). Self-nominated at 13:07, 29 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John Goldmark; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: I'd say everything was fine and that this was approved for any of the three hooks, with a personal preference for ALT1 because of its simplicity, and because it's less terrifying than ALT2, but I'm a bit concerned with the earwig result that suggests this biography leans heavily on https://www.historylink.org/File/9858 - everything is sourced and there's nothing egregious, but I don't feel familiar enough with the nuances of our current policies to wave this through on my own authority. I'm going to hand this review off to someone else with more experience and pick up another item for my QPQ. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia and sorry I couldn't be more efficient about this! jengod (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
@Jengod: Thanks for taking a look at this and no worries about not feeling comfortable signing off on it. I've added additional sources and tried to reduce the reliance on the HistoryLink source and I am happy to try to continue to do so if requested by a new reviewer. The earwig score is high due to common phrases and quotes but I've tried to reword things where I can. Sammielh (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Apologies, I thought it was any nominations after your fifth nomination that required a QPQ. I have just done one. Sammielh (talk) 11:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
  • New reviewer here. I'm a bit uncomfortable with the 40% copyvio on earwig. I understand that most of it is direct quotations, but I think you should reword some stuff to get that down to 32% at most. Here are some possibilities:
  • His uncle was the Supreme Court justice Louis Brandeis → His uncle was Louis Brandeis, a Supreme Court justice
  • While there, he met Irma "Sally" Ringe → While working there, he met his future wife Irma "Sally" Ringe
  • They relocated first to White Salmon, Washington, where he worked for an orchardist and a second child, Peter, was born in 1946 → They relocated first to White Salmon, Washington, where he worked for an orchardist and where, in 1964, their second child Peter was born.
I'll leave the rest to you. Here's the earwig link if you want to compare. I'm marking QPQ as done. I also prefer ALT1. 〜 Festucalex • talk 13:04, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
@Festucalex: Thanks for taking a look at this. I've gotten earwig down to 30.1%, please let me know if you'd like me to make any other changes. Sammielh (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Looks good to me. ALT1 preferred. 〜 Festucalex • talk 18:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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