Template:Did you know nominations/Kavya Manyapu

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Kavya Manyapu

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... ~~that aerospace engineer Kavya Manyapu developed self-cleaning fabric for a space suit?~~ source
- ALT1:... that Kavya Manyapu developed a self-cleaning space suit using carbon nanotubes? source
- ALT2:... that the dust-repelling fabric Kavya Manyapu developed during her PhD is currently being tested in space? source

Reviewed: Totentanz (Distler)

Created by Achaea (talk). Self-nominated at 21:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC).

New enough and long enough. Well cited, no other policy issues suspected. Concerning the hook, since the fabric repels-dust, I think it is an over-statement to say it is "self-cleaning" (that is a catchy phrase used in the headline of the Houston Chronicle article, but dust-repelling is used throughout the article). I recommend just stating that the fabric repels dust as in ALT2. But I do think mentioning carbon nanotubes as in ALT1 makes the hook more interesting. I also am not sure it is accurate to give Manyapu full credit. The Houston Chronicle source says she developed the fabric. But the Valley News source says de León was the primary inventor of the suit and they both developed the fabric. I don't have access to the third possible source (newscientist.com) which could clarify. But to be safe, I suggest a new hook saying she "co-developed" a dust-repelling fabric for spacesuits using carbon nanotubes.

MB 03:14, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@MB: Thanks for your feedback and the corrections on the article! That's a good point, how about ALT3? Achaea (talk) 07:02, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

ALT3 ... that Kavya Manyapu co-developed a dust-repelling fabric for space suits using carbon nanotubes? source

Achaea, I clarified the article so that the source, article, and hook all say the same. Now we are good to go with ALT3.

MB 15:01, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@MB: Great, thanks for all your help, much appreciated! Achaea (talk) 15:27, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

You've got one source that says she invented the technology and another that says she co-invented it. I think that discrepancy will have to be resolved before this hook can be run. Gatoclass (talk) 17:28, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: Was just looking through the sources, just want to check do you mean [this one] that says she invented it? Although none of the stories seem to make it abundantly clear, I think because it was developed during her PhD, it is safe to say her supervisor (de Léon), who is also coauthor on both papers, helped in developing it. What would be a satisfactory way to solve this for you? We could make this more explicit in both the hook? Achaea (talk) 18:12, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Gatoclass, I noted this during my review. This article says she developed the fabric with de Léon. It's my impression that this article is quite factual and I gave more weight to it that the other article that says she invented it herself. I find that the second article is written with more of a "human interest" angle and plays up Manyapu (e.g. includes her photo, references Batman) to appeal to a less-technical, wider audience and as a result just "glossed-over" the fact that did not develop the fabric alone (in reality, there was a lot of involvement from private companies as well.) The original hook said she invented the fabric and I objected to that based on this analysis of which source is more scholarly. Hope this helps. MB 05:03, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

@Gatoclass and MB: Would a slight revision to ALT0 work here?

ALT0a ... that aerospace engineer Kavya Manyapu helped develop self-cleaning fabric for a space suit?

Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, No, that makes it sound like she had a minor or secondary role.MB 00:56, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@MB: Thinking of other possibilities: since Leon has an article, how about the following?

ALT4 ... that Kavya Manyapu and Pablo de León developed self-cleaning fabric for a space suit?

Or perhaps, if something quirky is possible, maybe the following could work?

Alt5 ... that aerospace engineer Kavya Manyapu is also a certified scuba diver?

Alt6 ... Kavya Manyapu, who contributed to the development of a self-cleaning fabric for space suits, is also a certified scuba diver?

Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:04, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for all your work on this. I do like ALT4, but in order to run that, I'd need to clean up and expand Pablo de León. Will try to get on that when I have the time, otherwise I like Alt6 best. @Gatoclass: You initially had these concerns, could you comment on the newly proposed ALTs? Achaea (talk) 10:11, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

I found a research paper here entitled "Proof of concept demonstration of novel technologies for lunar spacesuit dust mitigation" which lists five authors (Kavya Manyapu, Pablo de León, Leora Peltz, Deborah Waters, James Gaier). It lists Manyapu first, lists her as the contact person, and the header on every page says "K.K. Manyapu et al." It's clear she had the key role, although there certainly were other participants. Alt4 may give too much weight to De Leon. I still find ALT3 acceptable (we have not heard from Gato whether he still has a concern with it.)

Here is a minor change to ALT3 if that is the case.

ALT3a ... that Kavya Manyapu led the development of a dust-repelling fabric for space suits using carbon nanotubes?

MB 14:51, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Alt3a approved. --evrik ^(talk) 20:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC)