- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 01:14, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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Kimmo Leinonen
- ... that Kimmo Leinonen helped establish both the Finnish Hockey Hall of Fame and the IIHF Hall of Fame? Source: Finland IIHF
- Reviewed: Bashunosaurus and Central Post Office (Kyiv)
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 00:15, 7 January 2023 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
| QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 
@Flibirigit Thank you for a great piece of work. The article is new (created on January 7), long enough (4433 characters (765 words) "readable prose size"), nicely sourced, and free of plagiarism. Can you suggest a catchier hook? RV (talk) 07:30, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
I would probably agree, Flibirigit, that RV's suggestion is a good idea. Could you provide a hook here? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I proposed what I feel is the most interesting part of Leinonen's career. Establishing one hall of fame is a difficult task, and doing so for the world is even more difficult. Please provide more detailed and constructive feedback as to why that hook is not interesting, and what is interesting in the article. Pinging me on my own nomination is not necessary. Flibirigit (talk) 12:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- It is difficult, sure, but being neat or impressive doesn't always translate smoothly to being hooky. There are some DYKs you read and just think "hmm, cool!", and go on with your day, and those aren't great. It's the ones you read and want to know more about that are actual hooks – designed to catch you and pull you in. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:58, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
The feedback above is not helpful. Other comments are welcome. Flibirigit (talk) 03:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Approving. I feel that theleekycauldron is being too picky. A hook being "hmm, cool!" is good enough and that alone might lead to more clicks. SL93 (talk) 03:07, 26 January 2023 (UTC)- You said "but being neat or impressive doesn't always translate smoothly to being hooky", which means that it has a chance of being hooky. I'm not sure how much of you denying certain hooks is based on what readers tend to like and how much is what you personally don't like. I wonder that because you only referred to yourself at Template:Did you know nominations/Old-Fashioned Cupcake. If it is a cool fact (this nomination) or a neat fact (the other nomination), it's fine. SL93 (talk) 03:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- It is difficult, sure, but being neat or impressive doesn't always translate smoothly to being hooky. There are some DYKs you read and just think "hmm, cool!", and go on with your day, and those aren't great. It's the ones you read and want to know more about that are actual hooks – designed to catch you and pull you in. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:58, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I proposed what I feel is the most interesting part of Leinonen's career. Establishing one hall of fame is a difficult task, and doing so for the world is even more difficult. Please provide more detailed and constructive feedback as to why that hook is not interesting, and what is interesting in the article. Pinging me on my own nomination is not necessary. Flibirigit (talk) 12:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
