Template:Did you know nominations/Lady Shani

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Lady Shani

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  • ...that Lady Shani was involved in a professional wrestling match that got too real, causing one of her opponents to be injured and another not booked again as a result? Source:

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 03:58, 3 January 2019 (UTC).

  • MPJ-DK - this needs some editing for tone. There are some point of view statements in the article, such as "The Reina de Reinas championship match at Triplemanía XXV turned out to be more notable for the wrong reasons." This is just a bit too casual and the way it's written, it comes across like it's your own statement about what happened. It's better to write it as something along the lines of "At Triplemanía XXV Lady Shani competed against the defending Sexy Star, as well as Ayako Hamada and Rosemary for the Reina de Reinas championship. The fight received media attention due to statements by Sexy Star, who claims that Lady Shani was "shooting" or legitimately fighting with her instead of the pre-planned match." Basically, saying "wrong reasons" comes with implied meanings and emotions and as such, it's inherently non-neutral. Make sure that the writing style doesn't come across as too casual or non-neutral. I'd recommend styling the sections more along the lines of how the article is written for Ayako Hamada or Mick Foley. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 15:24, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Also be careful of claims like "biggest career accomplishment" for the same reason, unless you have a source that specifically states this. This is something that would also be seen as a judgement call, so I also recommend attributing this to the person making the claim. Any time you have terms that signify that something is better or worse, such as 'prestigious' or 'wrong', I'd use attribution just to defuse concerns that you were inserting personal opinion. On a side note, be careful of the term prestigious, as this is often used by marketing people to promote things - I'd instead use language such as "billed as AAA's most important show of the year" since it gives attribution and also kind of defuses concern about using marketing speak. A second run through also shows some grammatical errors that look to be typos, so definitely review the article to catch these. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 15:31, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your time and the good feedback. I believe I have rewriten those "est" (biggest etc.) phrases to be less praising, mor factual. I re-wrote the begining of the Triplemania section as well to be more encylopedic (I hope) and had a go at fixing typos etc. MPJ-DK (talk) 00:31, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
ReaderofthePack - I hope you have seen that I've done several updates to address this, can you take a second look at this at some point please? Thanks in advance. MPJ-DK (talk) 12:27, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Just realized that I forgot to ask you to add a source for the hook. (This one is good for the title part.) Also, I tweaked the article as far as the claim goes - I attributed it to the source. I think that it may be better to leave off the booking part since people may differ on whether or not the database is the best source for this. It'd be better to have it be something like "...that during Triplemanía XXV, Lady Shani's match with Sexy Star, Ayako Hamada and Rosemary ended with Sexy Star getting stripped of her title for legitimately injuring Rosemary?" What do you think? ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 21:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Also, wow at Cody Rhodes not wanting to work with Sexy Star again - I can see where she was effectively blackballed from wresting, at least for the time being. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 21:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Since the database is the most consistent, comprehensive coverage of matches collected in one place it's the only type of source to support the fact that she has not worked a single AAA match since unless there is a source that says she was outright fired, which I don't remember seeing, AAA just stopped booking her. I did not add in comments from Cody Rhodes or Road Dogs since the article is about Lady Shani, but I have no problem with someone else adding it. Between the source you listed and CageMatch the statements of the hook are sourced. Your alt basically says what mine says - except you'd be unable to approve your own suggestion, so here is one that combines the original and your input for your review. MPJ-DK (talk) 21:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Adding the tick that seems to have been omitted. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)