- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 21:33, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Leonard Abrams
- ... that Leonard Abrams was the founder of the East Village Eye, an arts and culture magazine which in 1982 is believed to have been the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop? Source: "Despite its downtown focus, the Eye also cast a glance uptown and beyond to chronicle the world of hip-hop as it hurtled toward the mainstream. It ran early feature articles about Afrika Bambaataa, Run-DMC and the graffiti artist Fab 5 Freddy.Indeed, Mr. Abrams and others associated with the Eye long claimed that it was the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop, with a parenthetical in a January 1982 interview with Mr. Bambaataa by the writer Michael Holman that summarized the term as “the all-inclusive tag for the rapping, breaking, graffiti-writing, crew-fashion-wearing street subculture.”"
Created by Thriley (talk) and Wil540 art (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 23:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leonard Abrams; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Created 9 days before, which is pushing the discretionary envelope a bit (8-10 days are sometimes still possible). There are also some key phrases from the NYT article, leading to an Earwig hit of 30.6%, albeit one of those is from a quote and is appropriate, and two others can be addressed (and the actual similarities are a fraction of the NYT article total). The hook needs some reworking, as right now it could be misread around the 1982. So with a little work, this can be ready, subject to a second opinion and / or an explanation on the delayed submission. // I am going to greenlight this for ALT2, as I think the hip-hop point is of wide interest, the delay in submission has been underlined by the long wait, and the input is responsive and now compact enough. Good luck! SeoR (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. I have fixed the issues with the close paraphrasing. Thriley (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- ALT1 "that Leonard Abrams was the founder of the arts and culture magazine East Village Eye which in 1982 is believed to have been the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop?" Thriley (talk) 21:44, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not a review, but ALT1 is 199 characters, which puts it in discretionary territory. To me at least it seems very long and complicated; can a more concise hook be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2 "...that Leonard Abrams founded the arts and culture magazine East Village Eye, which he claimed was the first publication to print a comprehensive definition of hip-hop?" Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- 168 chars, directly stated in the quote above, non-complicated. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Created 9 days before, which is pushing the discretionary envelope a bit (8-10 days are sometimes still possible). There are also some key phrases from the NYT article, leading to an Earwig hit of 30.6%, albeit one of those is from a quote and is appropriate, and two others can be addressed (and the actual similarities are a fraction of the NYT article total). The hook needs some reworking, as right now it could be misread around the 1982. So with a little work, this can be ready, subject to a second opinion and / or an explanation on the delayed submission. // I am going to greenlight this for ALT2, as I think the hip-hop point is of wide interest, the delay in submission has been underlined by the long wait, and the input is responsive and now compact enough. Good luck! SeoR (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2023 (UTC)