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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:03, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Luceafărul (poem)

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Luceafărul in a 1923 rendition

• ... that, according to one interpretation, Mihai Eminescu's 1883 legend Luceafărul depicts Eminescu as the eponymous deity (pictured), and erotic rival Ion Luca Caragiale as a mortal page? For instance Caracostea, p. 35, paraphrasing Titu Maiorescu: "In toiul pasiunii pentru Veronica Micle, [Maiorescu] îi descoperă că Veronica avusese și continuă să aibă legături cu Caragiale... Aceasta este este varianta lui Maiorescu cu privire la substratul de experiență al Luceafărului. [...] Cătălin era seducătorul Caragiale." ("At the height of his [Eminescu's] passion for Veronica Micle, [Maiorescu] unveils that Veronica had had, and continued to have, relations with Caragiale... This is Maiorescu's variant on what is the layer of [personal] experience in Luceafărul. [...] Cătălin [the page] is that seductive Caragiale.")
  • ALT1:... that, in creating his Luceafărul myth, about the impossible love between a deity (pictured) and a mortal, Mihai Eminescu may have been influenced by the Katha Upanishad? Constantin: "Cicerone Poghirc [...] arată că există o influenţă directă în Luceafărul cu sursa în Kata-Upanishad I 20-28. Ideea fundamentală a incompatibilităţii destinelor între Hyperion şi Cătălina este apropiată de concepţia indiană, de origine vedică, a lui dharma" ("Cicerone Poghirc [...] demonstrates a direct influence in Luceafărul, sourced from Kata-Upanishad I 20-28. The fundamental idea of an incompatibility of destiny between Hyperion and Cătălina is related to the Indian, at core Vedic, concept of dharma")

• Reviewed: Marjan Šarec
• Comment: PLEASE NOTE: I am aware that poem titles are rendered in quotation marks rather than italics, but I take that to mean when the titles are in English. In this case, the title in Romanian is kept, because there are a host of translations into English, rendering the complexity of the subject matter: all translations cover just one aspect of the protagonist, and have to deal with a conceptual ambiguity. Other than the translated versions of the poems, each with its own preference, English sources tend to also keep the Romanian name, in italics, and give a parenthetical translation. A possible benchmark here is Les Fleurs du mal. Dahn (talk) 17:32, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 17:32, 26 June 2017 (UTC).

• age and size ok, written neutrally, no copyvio detected. original hook not interesting, ALT1 better - I wonder if "been referencing" is a bit presumptive and "influenced by" might be better.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:35, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

• Sure. Changed ALT accordingly. Dahn (talk) 08:08, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

• ok all good then. foreign language source accepted in good faith. The only Romanian I can say is, "Mea bunica noi a Megidia"....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)