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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:59, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

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Maria, Königin des Friedens

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Neviges pilgrimage church
Neviges pilgrimage church
  • Reviewed: Cueros de Purulla
  • Comment: Today is the architect's 100th birthday, and he's alive! I should have noticed a bit sooner.

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC).



  • Expanded over 5x to well beyond the minimum length requirement.
  • Nicely written, with a good use of varied and high-quality sources (the very detailed journal article @ ref [1] can potentially be used as a basis for future expansion of this article, which exposure on DYK may help to drive).
  • No close paraphrasing/copyvio noted from the English or German sources.
  • QPQ review done.
  • Image is suitably licensed and of good quality (indeed, it was a Featured Picture candidate at Commons, albeit unsuccessful). I strongly recommend the use of the image when the article is promoted, as it is so striking and distinctive and helps the reader understand the context of the hooks.
  • Both hooks are supported and suitably referenced, but I would recommend ALT1. It is shorter and more attention-grabbing; and in the original hook, the reference to the Second Vatican Council doesn't add much: almost all English Catholic churches designed in the mid-1960s and after were designed with its ideals in mind (versus populum, ad orientem and so on), and I imagine German churches of that era were no different.
  • There are a few minor textual and referencing issues to resolve:
    • Böhm presented a revised model to the cardinal, who was then almost blind but could feel the model by touch and ultimately favoured it. is supported by ref [2] rather than [1].
    • Construction began in 1963 The timeline seems to be this: it was designed in 1963 (refs [1] and [4]); Böhm won the commission in June 1964 (ref [1]); the site was prepared in late 1965 (ref [1]); and construction started in 1966 (ref [7]).
    • The Schlangenfenster is mentioned in ref [2].
    • The sentence about Hillebrand's Mariensäule needs a reference.
Thank you for an excellent review, and the help with the timeline. Please check again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Good to go now. Thank you for a very interesting article. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:38, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this to an image slot, but the first hook is too long and the second too vague. What do you think about this alt:
  • ALT2: ... that Maria, Königin des Friedens (pictured), a pilgrimage church in Neviges designed in brutalist style, became architect Gottfried Böhm's signature building? Yoninah (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
fine by me (although saying less than ALT1) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:48, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks. The picture really says it all. Restoring tick per Hassocks5489's review. Yoninah (talk) 23:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
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