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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 10:02, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Menticirrhus americanus

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... that although the southern kingcroaker is a sea fish, its juveniles are often found in tidal rivers?

Reviewed: West Worldham, East Worldham

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

New enough and long enough. Adequate referencing per the DYK rules. No plagarism; the sentence describing the range is a little close to the first 2 sources (which ironically I think themselves appear to be the same) but I think the straightforward factual information is presented in a manner different enough to not be problematic. Where I have a question is the hook fact itself. I did not see a reference to the juveniles being found specifically in tidal rivers (or creeks), just that they tolerate lower salinity. I did find references elsewhere to juveniles being found in estuaries, [1] which may have been the intent of the tidal river comment, but I am not sure they are the same thing (Wikipedia actually has separate articles for them, which should be merged if they are). (Some such references also imply that the juveniles are hatched in estuaries, which means that at least some adults move into estuaries to spawn.) Also, I am not sure I would call it a "sea" fish when its range is the Atlantic Ocean. Therefore, I would suggest restating the hook as:

ALT1 - ... that although the adult southern kingcroaker is found in the Atlantic Ocean, its juveniles are often found in estuaries? I will add the necessary reference for the estuaries. Rlendog (talk) 14:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

. The article meets the criteria—it is of appropriate length, was created within 5 days, and the hook is cited by a reliable source.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

It looks like our review crossed. I'm surprised I didn't get an edit conflict when I saved. I think it may be ok now with the reference I added, assuming tidal river and estuary are synonyms. If not, I think the alt should be used instead. Rlendog (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)