Template:Did you know nominations/Mitten wir im Leben sind
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The result was: promoted by Vanamonde (talk) 14:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
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Mitten wir im Leben sind
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Martin Luther in 1521
- ... that when Luther (pictured) expanded a translation of "Media vita" to the hymn "Mitten wir im Leben sind mit dem Tod umfangen" (In the midst of life we are in death), he repeated its Trisagion in all stanzas? see the text, source will follow
- Reviewed: Tianfei Palace (Songjiang)
- Comment: The hymn title alone makes no sense, even German, therefore I piped it to longer. An image of Luther in this year celebrating the Reformation might be a good idea.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:08, 25 November 2016 (UTC).
The article is new and big enough, correct person credited, QPQ done, article is neutral, and referenced throughout. Article is not a copyright infringement. Hook is pretty long but scrapes under 200 characters if pictured is omitted. Picture is used and is public domain. However hook fact does not appear in the article. The article states " he kept the structure" but does not say that Trisagion is repeated. We can see from the verses quoted that it is true. But unless soemone else noticed it and wrote about that repetition it would be original research. @Gerda Arendt: So please explicitly state the hook fact in the article and reference it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:06, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking. When I wrote the article, it was the funeral day of a friend which I couldn't attend because of heart surgery of another. I'm not in the same mood now, but let's clean up before the year ends. You are right, but how is looking at the three stanzas, with the same text repeated, OR? Everybody looking can arrive at the very same observation, like we can agree on a topic on a painting without other sources telling us that it is this topic, or as we don't have to source a plot. - It seemed to me the most remarkable thing when I wrote hook and article, this repetition of God being holy, even when looking at death, similar to the Jewish prayer for the dead: "Mourners say Kaddish to show that despite the loss they still praise God." But if you can't follow I suggest an "easier" hook:
- ALT1: ... that Luther (pictured) paraphrased in his hymn "Mitten wir im Leben sind mit dem Tod umfangen" the Latin "Media vita in morte sumus" (In the midst of life we are in death), including its Trisagion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
we can go with this hook, as it is in the article and not original research. Hook is totally 197 characters, and so short enough. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:27, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Luther (pictured) paraphrased in his hymn "Mitten wir im Leben sind mit dem Tod umfangen" the Latin "Media vita in morte sumus" (In the midst of life we are in death), including its Trisagion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
