Template:Did you know nominations/Muur van Mussert

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Muur van Mussert

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[[File:|120x133px|Muur van Mussert with standard bearers and speaker Adriaan van Hees ]]

Muur van Mussert with standard bearers and speaker Adriaan van Hees

... that the Muur van Mussert (pictured, with standard bearers and speaker Adriaan van Hees), an overgrown brick wall, is all that remains of the Nazi-inspired rally grounds planned by the Dutch National Socialist Movement?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jessica Jones (season 1).
Comment: I find the picture to be a bit shocking, personally, but that's just me: it's very real. There's two more images in the article.

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 00:25, 9 June 2016 (UTC).

Review by Maile

QPQ

June 11, 2016 QPQ review by Drmies has not been used as a QPQ on any previous nomination

Eligibility

Article created by by Drmies on June 6, 2016, and has 1713 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
Article is NPOV, currently stable, no edit wars, no dispute tags

Sourcing

Every paragraph sourced inline and online in Dutch
Citations are appropriately formatted
No bare URLs

Hook

Hook is 156 characters, NPOV, stated in the article and sourced

Image

Image is used in the article, and on Commons, but I have questions about the Summary therein. This is obviously a WWII photo, possibly from a news sources or Nazi government agency. The date listed is 4 July 2013, and the uploader credits himself as the source, and the author as "Stills uit een filmpje", which I think is translated as "stills from a video". We need some clarification on Commons about the date, author and source. Can you help with that?

Answer from Commons Village Pump The first photo looks like it was taken from some pre-war propaganda publication. If the author died before 1945 or not known, it is in public domain in the Netherlands now.

Tools

Google Translate on Dutch sourcing shows no concerns
Checklinks show all citation external links are working links, and are not redirects
Dab solver says there are no disambiguation links in the article

Drmies This article is all good, except we need clarification on the source information in Commons. — Maile (talk) 15:00, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Hey Maile66, thanks for the comprehensive review. I suspect you have some kind of sneaky template that I barely understand which makes it all neat and clean. Yes, that image (and the other ones on Commons) are a bit problematic. I don't know what ArmTheInsane means with "own work"--I suppose it means they cut the still from the flick, but yeah, I'd love to know which filmpje this was. BTW, whether it's from WWII, I'm not sure--the Dutch article suggests that only one such event (I assume it was a Hagespreek) was held after WWII started. OK, never mind: it's from this clip, so it's from 22 June 1940. Does that help? Drmies (talk) 15:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

BTW, the guy in the center, the speaker, is nl:Adriaan van Hees, delivering some 200 lines, in rhyming couplets, of Nazi-inspired jingoism. Drmies (talk) 15:46, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be wonderful have a "sneaky template" that clarified things? Oh, I think you mean how I did the review. Nah. It's not a template. Years ago, I tried out the above method for easy visibility to the promoter. So, each time I do a review, I copy the basic format over and adapt it to each review. More of a copy/paste/fill in pertinent information. All I know about copyrights are things I've been questioned on at DYK, which means I know about as much as you (perhaps). And I know the info needs to be on Commons, one way or another, because while on the main page the image can be clicked. So, I've posted the question about the image at Commons:Village_pump/Copyright, and hope for an answer from them. — Maile (talk) 16:05, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Maile. In the meantime I translated the article for that collaborator from the Dutch wiki. Poor guy--got into a depression when he discovered he was part Jewish after all. And the the SS wouldn't have him... Drmies (talk) 16:14, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

This nomination passes. Good job there, Drmies. — Maile (talk) 21:21, 13 June 2016 (UTC)