- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Flibirigit (talk) 05:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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Neel Kolhatkar
- ... that Neel Kolhatkar was shortlisted for the Trop Jr Film Festival in 2009?
- ALT1:... that Neel Kolhatkar co-hosts a weekly podcast with fellow Australian YouTuber friendlyjordies?
- ALT2:... that Neel Kolhatkar was the youngest performer at the 2012 Sydney Fringe Festival?
5x expanded by Alink10273 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC).
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- n - Other problems:
QPQ: 
Overall: 
I'm not sure how interesting the hook would be to an international audience. Maybe include something about his "one-man musical based on a wannabe gangster from the Southern Sydney suburb of Kogarah, titled The KogDog!" (quoted from article) That may be more intriguing. Clemlivy aikensnaps (talk) 00:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- If it helps, I gave Alink10273 some hook suggestions at their talk page. — CR4ZE (T • C) 03:08, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- The nominator has no prior DYK credits so a QPQ is not required. They however have not edited since May 24th and so the nomination may have to proceed without them. Perhaps CR4ZE may be willing to adopt the nomination in their stead? Also, it appears that Clemlivy aikensnaps hasn't been on-Wiki since they reviewed this, so a new reviewer may be needed if they don't return. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Happy to take over from here. Not sure if QPQ applies if I'm taking over, but I did it anyway. Here's a couple alternatives:
- ALT3:... that Neel Kolhatkar's archetypal depiction of Australian culture in his comedy received journalistic criticism?
- ALT4:... that Neel Kolhatkar's first major acting role was in the divisive, self-directed short film Modern Educayshun?
- ALT5:... that criticism of Neel Kolhatkar's race-based comedy spurs him on to create more?
- I preference my first suggestion but am keen to hear feedback. — CR4ZE (T • C) 15:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- ALT4 is probably a non-starter since the film in question doesn't seem to be notable and otherwise isn't recognizable. ALT5 is possible, but owing to BLP reasons and in light of current situations, it may not be suitable at this time. ALT3 may need some more explanation or context since "caused criticism" is rather vague. As for the QPQ thing, as you aren't the original nominator you aren't required to provide the QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Disagree on ALT4: the film went viral, circulated through several conservative outlets[1][2] and featured on an FBE episode.[3] What BLP issues prop up with ALT5? I don't see why the "current climate" in the US would preclude this from being added. A new/improved article on a police department or political movement, sure, but not this. Have clarified ALT3. Do you think the suggestion above about the "one-man musical" could be more interesting? — CR4ZE (T • C) 16:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Not really so sure, if it did go viral in the US then that context would need to be added to the hook for the benefit of non-American readers and also because the hook itself doesn't make it clear. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- ALT4 already states that the film was divisive, which is supported in the article, and "going viral" is not something specific to US audiences, so I'm not sure what else you want me to clarify here. Here's another idea:
- ALT6:... that Neel Kolhatkar won Melbourne International Comedy Festival's 2009 Class Clowns competition?
- I'm otherwise happy to hear if you have any suggestions for hook alternatives. — CR4ZE (T • C) 08:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- I took a look at the article and the part about him receiving "criticism" is rather vague since it doesn't go into detail into that; maybe expanding that point and his responses to said critiques would be a good start in new ideas. I'll try to think of more suggestions, but as it's getting late where I live that may need to wait until tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 17:14, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- ALT4 already states that the film was divisive, which is supported in the article, and "going viral" is not something specific to US audiences, so I'm not sure what else you want me to clarify here. Here's another idea:
- Not really so sure, if it did go viral in the US then that context would need to be added to the hook for the benefit of non-American readers and also because the hook itself doesn't make it clear. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Disagree on ALT4: the film went viral, circulated through several conservative outlets[1][2] and featured on an FBE episode.[3] What BLP issues prop up with ALT5? I don't see why the "current climate" in the US would preclude this from being added. A new/improved article on a police department or political movement, sure, but not this. Have clarified ALT3. Do you think the suggestion above about the "one-man musical" could be more interesting? — CR4ZE (T • C) 16:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- ALT4 is probably a non-starter since the film in question doesn't seem to be notable and otherwise isn't recognizable. ALT5 is possible, but owing to BLP reasons and in light of current situations, it may not be suitable at this time. ALT3 may need some more explanation or context since "caused criticism" is rather vague. As for the QPQ thing, as you aren't the original nominator you aren't required to provide the QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Happy to take over from here. Not sure if QPQ applies if I'm taking over, but I did it anyway. Here's a couple alternatives:
- The nominator has no prior DYK credits so a QPQ is not required. They however have not edited since May 24th and so the nomination may have to proceed without them. Perhaps CR4ZE may be willing to adopt the nomination in their stead? Also, it appears that Clemlivy aikensnaps hasn't been on-Wiki since they reviewed this, so a new reviewer may be needed if they don't return. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- @CR4ZE: After giving this some thought, the first part of ALT3 might work as a starting point; however it might be a good idea to focus on the "archetypal depiction" aspect provided that more context is given as to what that depiction is in the hook. Perhaps wording along the likes of "that comedian Neel Kolhatkar is known for his archetypal depiction of Australian culture, where..." or "that comedian Neel Kolhatkar's depiction of Australian culture as..."? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:34, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Neither the nominator nor the reviewer have edited since May and CR4ZE hasn't been on-Wiki since June 23th. If this nomination isn't adopted by another editor soon it may be marked for closure as stale. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:47, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
The nominator and reviewer haven't edited since May and CR4ZE hasn't returned to the nomination since their last comment here. Unless another editor adopts the nomination and addresses the concerns, this is now marked for closure as abandoned. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:18, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Nomination rejected since it is abandoned. Flibirigit (talk) 05:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
