Template:Did you know nominations/Orange College of Breda

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Orange College of Breda

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André Rivet, by Wenceslaus Hollar, 1647

Breda, mapped for the Atlas van Loon, 1649

• ... that the Huguenot André Rivet (pictured) was the first Rector of the Orange College of Breda?
  Source: C. D. Andriesse, Huygens: The Man Behind the Principle (2005), p. 80

• Reviewed: Horncastle helmet fragment

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 16:55, 12 February 2018 (UTC).

• @Moonraker: The hook, as it is currently formulated, is not primarily about the eligible article. To become eligible, the hook must be reworded to have Orange College of Breda be the main focus of it, rather than André Rivet. Moreover, I believe the image is entirely ineligible, as it is not a photo of the subject of the article. Ergo Sum 21:31, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Very well, Ergo Sum, it's not a terribly good hook or image, anyway. How about this... Moonraker (talk) 23:30, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the Orange College of Breda was founded at a time when Breda (mapped in 1649) had only about 4,000 inhabitants, not counting the soldiers?
  Source: Dror Wahrman, Mr Collier's Letter Racks: A Tale of Art and Illusion (2012), p. 171

Interesting historic facts, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. Both images are licensed, I prefer the person, and I know of no rule saying it has to be the article in question that is pictured. I wonder, though, if not a hook about a famous student (pictured) would be even more effective. - Caption: I don't think we need the painter on the Main page. - Article: I wonder if the first sentence could say sooner what it is, and a second sentence give the many alt names. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

I have polished the lead, as you suggested, Gerda Arendt. Yes, I also haven't come across such a rule before, but I really didn't like the first hook. How about Alt2? Moonraker (talk) 05:56, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Frederick Henry of Orange

• • ALT2 ... that the Orange College of Breda was founded by Frederick Henry, Prince of Orange (pictured)?
    Source: Lodewijck Huygens, The English Journal: 1651–1652 (Brill Archive, 1982), p. 13

thank you, ALT2 preferred --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 18 February 2018 (UTC)