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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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Paul Elias Alexander

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Moved to mainspace by HazelAB (talk). Nominated by MelanieN (talk) at 15:15, 19 September 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article was nominated within 7 days of being moved to mainspace. Well-sourced throughout with inline citations. No true copyright violations apparent according to Earwig; only quotes and things like "United States Department of Health and Human Services" and "Centers for Disease Control" show up as possible violations, which can be disregarded. The hook is interesting enough and appears in the article prose with a source. ALT0 is preferred out of the two. QPQ is done. Good to go. Aria1561 (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't understand why either of these hooks is hooky. They sound like notices in an employee bulletin. Surely the subject has some notability of his own? Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment, Yoninah. Yes, he has plenty of notability (notoriety) of his own: as a member of the Trump administration he exerted political pressure on health agencies, particularly the CDC, to make them change their public communications to be in line with what the president was saying; it was eventually reported and he got fired. But I hesitated to use most of that material because I didn't want to use a hook that would put the subject in a bad light; I am under the opinion that we discourage that. If you think it would be OK, I can come up with some livelier hooks. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @MelanieN: you can say that he challenged them; you don't have to say the second part that he was fired. Yoninah (talk) 23:53, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Here are a couple of more specific suggestions:
ALT2: .... that as an advisor to the United StatesUS Department of Health and Human Services, Paul Alexander tried unsuccessfully to tell Dr. Anthony Fauci what he could and could not say about the coronavirus? (source: "Emails show HHS official trying to muzzle Fauci")
ALT3: .... that as an advisor to the United States Department of Health and Human Services, Paul Alexander tried to get the Center for Disease Control to make their reports about the coronavirus "more upbeat" so that people would go out and spend money? -- MelanieN (talk) 00:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Forgot to ping. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:21, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
ALT3 exceeds 200 characters. ALT2 is certainly more interesting than ALT0 and ALT1, however. Aria1561 (talk) 00:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks, MelanieN, these are much better! I shortened ALT2 a bit. Aria1561, could you review ALT2? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Shortened ALT2 is good to go. Aria1561 (talk) 01:04, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @Aria1561: If it meets the requirements, please give it a tick. Yoninah (talk) 01:07, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the improvement, both of you! -- MelanieN (talk) 01:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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