- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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Paul Mickelson
... that Paul Mickelson bought the NBC Hollywood Studios organ, the instrument on which he first recorded? Source: [1] "At 18 Mickelson recorded his first organ solo at Hollywood's Radio City, playing on the NBC pipe organ.... Mickelson now owns this organ..."
- Reviewed: Donald Glover
Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:32, 6 November 2019 (UTC).
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- Just some minor wording to sort out. The hook and article state that Mickelson's first recording was on the NBC organ. The source says his first recorded organ solo—that's quite distinctive to (and doesn't necessarily mean) his "first recording". The source does not verify that this session was his very first, so unless a new source can I think we need a slight rewording (of hook and article) to reflect this. - Interesting:
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MIDI (talk) 17:21, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- "Hollywood Studios", with caps, looks like it could be linked to something. Any ideas if so? Also, the photo in the article is eligible for use (as PD) if you wanted. MIDI (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @MIDI: thank you for the review. This is why its such a good idea to have an independent set of eyes looking at it, as the proposed hook is a confluence of trying to keep it short, trying to keep it interesting, and accidentally incorporating my own knowledge of the topic (I could expand this fivefold, but no OR allowed, alas
.) So, given that I'm unaware of any piano recordings by Mickelson until he joined Word, the fact that organ was by far the preferred instrument for religious performances until the 1960s, and he wouldn't have had a budget to do orchestral recording until he joined RCA, well, I didn't check my assumptions (to me it seems obvious as the only possibility) at the door. So, thank you for that. Also, I didn't think to check if NBC's California radio studios had their own article, but they do and it will make for a better hook. How about:
- ALT1 ... that Paul Mickelson bought the organ from NBC's Hollywood Studios, the instrument upon which he made his first solo organ recording? Source: [2] "At 18 Mickelson recorded his first organ solo at Hollywood's Radio City, playing on the NBC pipe organ.... Mickelson now owns this organ..."
- Thanks again! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- No probs! At the risk of overlinking, I'd suggest the following as minor changes (just for context for unfamiliar readers). Also, would something like "in later life" add clarity to the fact that Mickelson didn't just snap up the instrument straight after the session?:
- ALT2 ... that in later life, Paul Mickelson bought the organ from NBC's Hollywood Studios—the instrument upon which he made his first solo organ recording? Sources per above
- or the following, if ALT2 is too linky:
- ALT3 ... that in later life, Paul Mickelson bought the organ from Hollywood Studios—the instrument upon which he made his first solo organ recording? Sources per above
- MIDI (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that both NBC and Hollywood Studios need to be linked (although CBS had a Hollywood Studios also, for instance the album from which the article picture was taken was recorded on CBS' "Hollywood Studios" pipe organ.) This is just a suggestion, and I'm not sure it's better, but what about linking to Theatre organ, since the instrument was indeed a theatre organ, and not a
pipechurch organ. If you really feel I should include the image, then I should convert it to b&w. The album cover was printed in pink/black, and it looks like a severe case of sunburn.... 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:33, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that both NBC and Hollywood Studios need to be linked (although CBS had a Hollywood Studios also, for instance the album from which the article picture was taken was recorded on CBS' "Hollywood Studios" pipe organ.) This is just a suggestion, and I'm not sure it's better, but what about linking to Theatre organ, since the instrument was indeed a theatre organ, and not a
- MIDI (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that the music of organist Paul Mickelson has been described as "spirited but not swingy; reverent, but not pious"? "New Record Releases" (PDF). Columbia Union Visitor. Vol. 64, no. 34. Washington, DC: Columbia Union Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists. August 20, 1959. p. 3. --evrik (talk) 00:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks again! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
@MIDI: --evrik (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
@78.26:, is there anything which could be cited as a source for the discography? I also see that a birthday anniversay is coming up on December 30, but there's no cite for the date. It might be a good special occasion request since it's not far away from now. Hopefully we can get this approved soon. Flibirigit (talk) 03:43, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- @78.26:, I should also note that ALT1 through ALT4 are good subject to the above questions. Flibirigit (talk) 03:59, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Flibirigit: There was more than one place that had this date, but none of them count as a reliable source. Findagrave pictures his tombstone, which clearly shows the birth date. I have included it here as uncontroversial information, but I'm not sure I would make a special effort to run the DYK on that date since it isn't cited to RS. The discography section is self-sourced, like a bibliography. Records do not have ISBNs, so collectors and libraries use the label's catalog number in its place. I only included discs where this information is certain. He certainly released more, but I didn't include them if I couldn't meet WP:V. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:12, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
ALT1, ALT2, ALT3, ALT4 are approved with no preference. Each are properly cited and mentioned inline with a verifiable source. I included an external link to the Findagrave page with the photo of grave stone. I looked into newspaperarchives.com but couldn't find anything to add. Flibirigit (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
