- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Montanabw(talk) 05:40, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Philippe Musard
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Philippe Musard
- ... that central to Philippe Musard's (pictured) 1832 concerts was a "lascivious spectacle"?
- ALT1:... that Philippe Musard (pictured), known for throwing away batons, seized a baton from his son?
- Reviewed: Pilgrim Tercentenary half dollar
Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:33, 22 May 2016 (UTC).
The article is long enough at 12554 characters and was moved to article space on May 20, 2 days before it was nominated, so it is new enough. It is neutral in tone, and cites reliable sources with inline citations. Spot checks of online sources found no copyvio issues and I assume good faith for the offline sources. Both hooks are interesting and properly formatted. The original hook's fact is cited in the article to an offline source but the book is available on Google books, and I verified the presence of the quoted words in the source. ALT1 has an issue in that its second component (seizing a baton from his son) is cited (to an offline source) in the article but the citation doesn't appear directly after the sentence containing the fact. I'm leaving it in case the nominator wants to make the necessary change but I think the original hook is preferable. QPQ has been done. The image is from Commons and in the public domain and shows up well at this size. One last thing - since there is a picture, (pictured) needs to appear in the hook. HazelAB (talk) 16:20, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- @HazelAB: I added the citation directly after the sentence (same cite as following sentence, I think I split this into two sentences and neglected to duplicate the cite). However, there's no reason to use the Alt if you like the original better. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:50, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- @78.26: Since there's an image (pictured) has to appear in the hook. Adding it after "Philippe Musard's" in the original hook looks odd to me, as if the concerts were pictured. What do you think? Do you want to rephrase it? Or just go with the Alt? HazelAB (talk) 17:27, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Philippe Musard (pictured) led 1832 concerts described as "lascivious spectacle"?
- What do you think? 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:52, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- @78.26: That's better, but now "1832 concerts" seems odd. What about moving the date to the front, as in "...that in 1832 Philippe Musard..." And also, was it the concerts or the can-can that were the lascivious spectacle? Maybe "concerts featuring"? HazelAB (talk) 20:42, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
Looking at it again, I think the original hook is fine as it is - obviously pictured refers to the picture of Musard. Either the original or ALT1 would be fine and both fit all the criteria. Interesting article, and I hope the picture makes it to the front page as it's quite striking. HazelAB (talk) 10:39, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
- @78.26: Since there's an image (pictured) has to appear in the hook. Adding it after "Philippe Musard's" in the original hook looks odd to me, as if the concerts were pictured. What do you think? Do you want to rephrase it? Or just go with the Alt? HazelAB (talk) 17:27, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- @HazelAB: I added the citation directly after the sentence (same cite as following sentence, I think I split this into two sentences and neglected to duplicate the cite). However, there's no reason to use the Alt if you like the original better. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:50, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
