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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:01, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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Tony Appleton, Prince Louis of Cambridge

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Tony Appleton in 2010
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Created by Sceptre (talk) and Jibran1998 (talk). Nominated by Sceptre (talk) at 23:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

  • The article currently has unresolved BLP issues. Until that is resolved, I'm afraid the article might not be fit for the main page. Also, I would suggest an alternative hook:
    *ALT1: ... that Prince Louis of Cambridge is the first British prince with an older sister whom he does not precede in the line of succession?
    Surtsicna (talk) 00:09, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • He’s not, though. Prince Michael of Kent held that status for decades. Advocata (talk) 01:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you mean; according to the Succession to the British throne, Prince Michael of Kent is 46th and Princess Alexandra, The Honourable Lady Ogilvy is 51st. StAnselm (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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would be just as true and less clumsy. StAnselm (talk) 03:36, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Prince Michael of Kent married a Catholic, removing himself from the succession until legislation enacting the Perth Agreement took effect a few years ago. Prior to that, he was a British prince with an older sister whom he did not precede in the succession. Advocata (talk) 07:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Oh, of course. StAnselm (talk) 08:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Just as a comment: I originally intended to nominate Appleton, before finding out that the Royal Baby's article was also DYK eligible. I've no objection to two hooks, but I think a double hook is always nicer. Sceptre (talk) 23:14, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Question: While I don't doubt the volume of coverage, it seems Louis of Cambridge is only known for one event: his recent birth. How are we reconciling this with BLP1E? Chetsford (talk) 05:01, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
    As he's fifth in the line to the throne of sixteen countries and is not going to drop below that until 2030 (assuming, of course, the monarchy isn't abolished and he doesn't convert to Catholicism), Louis is not going to be notable just for his birth. I think that royalty this high in the succession in any country would be notable from birth. Sceptre (talk) 16:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Is fifth all that high? It would take a disaster that has never before occurred in the 1,000 year history of post-Norman Britain for a 5er to ascend to the throne. What is our cut-off point for "high" in order of succession? I would have thought it would be a crown prince and stop about there in the absence of GNG. That said, you are correct that even Sweden's #5, the 18 month old Prince Alexander, Duke of Södermanland, has an article. (Though I question whether that is BLP1E, also.) Chetsford (talk) 17:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Not necessarily! Between her birth on 24 May 1819 and her father's death on 23 January 1820, Princess Victoria of Kent was fifth in line, following her uncles The Prince of Wales, the Duke of York, the Duke of Clarence, and her father, the Duke of Kent. Piratesswoop (talk) 23:48, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Full review of nomination needed; ALT1 and ALT2 struck as neither was accurate. If anyone believes that Prince Louis of Cambridge does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, the proper venue for determining that is Articles for Deletion. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
  • These two articles are new enough and long enough. The image is suitably licensed and the original hook is cited inline. The articles are neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Two QPQs are really required for a two article hook, but I will donate one of my unused ones so that this nomination can proceed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:12, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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