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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 11:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

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Randal Plunkett, 21st Baron of Dunsany

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Randal Plunkett, 21st Baron of Dunsany, with one of his family Jack Russell terriers
Randal Plunkett, 21st Baron of Dunsany, with one of his family Jack Russell terriers
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William McAndrew (educator)
  • Comment: DYKCheck on 2 Dec.: Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 71 edits ago on November 26, 2021. // Like my last DYK nom, Ireland's Eye, a case of hidden potential; additional hooks could be found in other parts of the bio but the rewilding drive is the lead source of notability. Illustration tested at 100 (x89) pix. Further points could be linked (ancestral estate > Dunsany Castle and Demesne, for example) but piped links can add quite a bit to the character count.

5x expanded by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 3 December 2021 (UTC).

  • Expanded from ~3000 to ~15,000 characters of prose in seven days. Neutral and cited. No copyright issues found. The image is free and looks good in a small format. ALT0 is exactly 200 characters not counting "(pictured)", ALT1 is slightly shorter. QPQ was done back in August. My only issue is that the sources seem to give different info about the woodpeckers: Irish Times from December 2020 say they have never been sighted in Meath before, but France 24 from October 2021 says they were "sighted in the area for the first time in a century". Is there some detail missing here or is the older info just outdated? Ffranc (talk) 10:45, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks for a prompt and thorough review Ffranc. The Irish Times is the newspaper-of-record and I think is the superior (and more locally-aware) source, and what they said was clear "Confirming the presence of the pair of greater spotted woodpeckers, Niall Hatch of BirdWatch Ireland said: “There is no evidence that they were ever in Meath before.”". I think the other wording simply reflects record-keeping - e.g. there are records for about a hundred years. I don't think that there is any claim that woodpeckers were specifically seen 100 years ago, and vanished - they are not mentioned among the "returned species" in the many articles. So I don't think it's a contradiction, just one making a broader statement, the other confining themselves to "as far as we can tell". I will try to find more sources. SeoR (talk) 11:59, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • But just in case, I will offer a precautionary wording as an ALT 0a. On hook lengths, these are from the start impacted by the long article title, (pictured) and piped links, and the actual word base word content is within limits, I think; for ALT0a, I cut a word to help with this. SeoR (talk) 12:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Looks good and your explanation sounds reasonable. (But I like to imagine someone found a letter or diary entry from Lord Dunsany where he mentioned having seen a woodpecker.) Ffranc (talk) 13:56, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

ALT1 to T:DYK/P4 without image

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