- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:55, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Regina coeli (Mozart)
... that Mozart composed for the Salzburg Cathedral three settings of a Marian antiphon for Eastertide, Regina coeli, the last one in 1779 for four soloists and choir? Source: several
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to come
- Comment: Sorry, the article is not ready but I have company, sorry.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 17:40, 7 August 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
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Overall:
Impeccably cited and well written article on a beautiful composition. No Swan So Fine (talk) 10:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Rogers Covey-Crump. And please keep watching, the article is still not where I want it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:06, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Proposing a reword of the hook below to try to improve the flow:
- I think this simplified hook catches the reader's attention, and those who want to know more information will click on the article. I think arrangements would be a correct descriptor, but I am not a music expert so I am open to someone proposing a better word. Z1720 (talk) 15:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but a new composition in several movements for soloists and orchestra is not an "arrangement". Mentioning soloists choir and orchestra gives an idea of the weight of the music, which otherwise could be a short thing for just one singer an organ. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'm concerned that ALT0 is difficult for the average reader to understand, and information about the third set does not need to be in the hook (as it does not seem hooky or more notable than the first two sets). A simpler hook will entice the reader to click on the article to get more information, which is a goal for DYK. I am suggesting some reworded hooks below:
- I also italicised Regina coeli in my ALTs because that is how it is presented in the article. I also added wikilinks for words that I needed more information on in order to understand the hook. Thoughts? Z1720 (talk) 15:58, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am afraid my hook had a problem that you now copied. He set the antiphon three times to music - and I really think that enough people know well enough that Mozart was a composer to not have to say "to music" nor link to it. The antiphon should be straight, the compositions italic, but I tried to avoid the repetition. When I write about music I prefer to have a hook about ow it sounds, not just quantity, - do you understand? We had a hook about 3000 times Carmen and I was ashamed.
- Perhaps I should have written three articles because each of them is an interesting piece, - I only combined because in the beginning, I was afraid they might not get long enough. Trying harder, and avoid Eastertide in mid-summer:
- ALT0d: ... that the last of three Regina coeli compositions that Mozart wrote for the Salzburg Cathedral takes four soloists, choir and orchestra to perform?
- If we really need something towards quirky, how about this?
- ALT1: ... that Mozart wrote two of his three Regina coeli compositions for the Salzburg Cathedral as a teenager?
- Let people find out that these a Marian hymns for Easter in the article. 15 August is a Marian feast, but it's too late to get it in a queue, and it's really a different occasion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Readding tick per the above review by No Swan So Fine and my check of ALT0d and ALT1. Preference is for ALT0d. Z1720 (talk) 15:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)