- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 03:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Reineh
- Alt1: ... that the economy of Reineh was so strong in the Mamluk era (14th–16th century CE), that they could afford imported pottery from Syria and Italy? Source: Bisharat, 2017, Er-Reina
- Alt2: ... that the economy of Reineh (presently northern Israel) was so strong in the Mamluk era (14th–16th century CE), that they could afford imported pottery from Syria and Italy? Source: Bisharat, 2017, Er-Reina
5x expanded by Huldra (talk) and Nishidani (talk). Nominated by Huldra (talk) at 22:14, 17 December 2021 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, article is fine policy-wise and is solidly sourced, Earwig couldn't find any copyvio issues and neither could I. The hook is fine length-wise, the factoid is reasonably interesting and I was able to verify it with the given source. That being said, it doesn't specify where Reinah is located, which means it wouldn't entirely make sense to the average reader - I would be grateful if Huldra could clarify this in the hook. QPQ is fine. This would be good to go once the hook is clarified. --GGT (talk) 00:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks User:GGT; the Bisharat-link gives "map ref. 229488–521/736511–35". Those numbers refers to the location according to Israeli Transverse Mercator, or, as it is also called, NIG or New Israel Grid.
- Basically, you take Palestine grid, (179/236, which was in the article) and add 50 to the first number (which is E-W) and then 500 to the second number, (which is N-S). (Then, possibly, add 3 numbers for the meters.)
- As 1 = 1 km in the Palestine grid, (that means that, say, 178/236 is 1 km to the east of 179/236, and 179/237 is 1 km to the north of 179/236); I think that 3 figures are enough. (229488/736511 gives the location down to the metre; suitable for an archeological dig, but not suitable for indicating the location of a town)
- I have added the NIG to the article. Hope this helps? Huldra (talk) 21:40, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Huldra, I do apologise as I think my comment wasn't entirely clear. The article itself is fine. What I meant was that the hook doesn't mention where Reineh is. If the reader on the main page is to be interested by the fact that there is pottery from Syria and Italy, it would help to know in the hook that Reineh itself is in northern Israel. --GGT (talk) 01:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, ok User:GGT; sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, we could put "(presently northern Israel)" after the name Reineh in the hook, but is that really necessary? Readers need only to click at Reineh to find where it is? If you think it is necessary, I'll put it in, :) Huldra (talk) 21:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Huldra: Well I would say a number of readers would not necessarily read the article if they don't understand the hook, and my first instinct was to ask "but where is Reineh?". That being said, it's not strictly necessary if you think it would make the hook clunky. --GGT (talk) 23:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, ok User:GGT; sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, we could put "(presently northern Israel)" after the name Reineh in the hook, but is that really necessary? Readers need only to click at Reineh to find where it is? If you think it is necessary, I'll put it in, :) Huldra (talk) 21:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Huldra, I do apologise as I think my comment wasn't entirely clear. The article itself is fine. What I meant was that the hook doesn't mention where Reineh is. If the reader on the main page is to be interested by the fact that there is pottery from Syria and Italy, it would help to know in the hook that Reineh itself is in northern Israel. --GGT (talk) 01:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
