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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:57, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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Siege of Katsurayama

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  • ... that during the Siege of Katsurayama the castle garrison poured rice from their walls to fool the besiegers into thinking they had ample water supplies? Source: "There was no spring on top of the mountain, so all drinking water had to be carried up from a source near the Joshoji temple on the mountain's lower slopes. This fact was initially unknown to the Takeda troops, and as water was always a crucial factor in a siege the garrison decided to fool the besiegers into thinking they had ample supplies. As they had plenty of rice the Ochiai soldiers chose a place that was easily visible from the Takeda lines and poured out the white rice in a torrent that looked like a waterfall. It boldly proclaimed the message that this desperately defended castle would be able to hold out until Kenshin broke through." (Turnbull, Stephen (2008) [1st pub. 2003]. Kawanakajima 1553–64. Samurai power struggle (4th ed.). Oxford: Osprey Publishing, p. 48)

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 12:06, 14 January 2018 (UTC).

  • (previously a DYK?) This is my first review. It reads well and seems thorough, if a bit heavy on one source. There are a few copy-edits that I'd like to see made (and will thus make). Really, the only reason it's not getting a Yes from me is because I'm scared of Being Bold. ~ Maltrópa loquace 22:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  • @Maltrópa: Thanks for the copy-edits. Unfortunately, there exist no English works other than Turnbull's book that detail the siege, and I cannot speak Japanese, so that I had to use a translator to at least find two other online sources for the article. Applodion (talk) 23:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  • @Maltrópa: Since you have made the copy-edits, can you pass the article? Applodion (talk) 10:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Sorry, like I said, first time! The article was only one-day old when nominated, and so is new enough and is visibly several times the minimum required length (c. 6800 characters, counting citation tags, according to wordcounter.net) and so is long enough; and the hook is 153 characters and so is short enough as well as being interesting (it's what made me review it in the first place). It might be worth sticking a citation closer to the line the hook references (I would if I were writing an essay) but I imagine the next citation along covers it anyway. I can only assume the article is true to the cited sources, but I'd believe that the stuff cited as Turnbull is indeed from an Osprey book. As such, I'd say it's within policy, but I can't access the sources to check. I stand over my initial tick. ~ Maltrópa loquace 00:01, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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