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The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 21:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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Sigala (musician), Good Times (Ella Eyre song)

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Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Sigala (musician) was created 07:52, 23 August 2015, but wasn't nominated until 21:56, 10 September 2015, over two weeks later. However, there was a five-fold expansion of the article that began 01:09, 5 September 2015‎, so I believe it qualifies as new enough. With a prose portion just over 2000 characters, it is also long enough. It follows NPOV and uses inline citations.
    • Some of the chart listings cited in the Sigala article are not the ones listed in Template:Record Charts, so I'm not sure how reliable they are as sources; are they all the official websites of the organizations that track the charts, or competing chart producers, or are some perhaps merely reporting other organizations' information?
    • A more serious issue I discovered while reviewing your sources is that you have not cited enough independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Sigala. The first DigitalSpy article cited is a mere mention; while the second DigitalSpy article cited is substantive enough to count towards notability, it isn't currently being cited for anything but the details of Sigala's second single. (You also need to change the ref name of one or the other to correct that ref error.) The only other substantive coverage is from Coda Music Agency, which appears to be Sigala's agent and thus not independent. I'm willing to AGF that sources to establish notability exist enough to not nominate the article for deletion (though another editor might) but I don't think an article on an apparently non-notable subject should move forward as a DYK.
  • Sigala (musician) needs work before the nomination can proceed. I am pausing here and not looking at Good Times (Ella Eyre song) yet, but if it has similar issues, Launchballer, I recommend you get on those, too, without waiting for a review to detail them. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 18:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Sigala passes WP:MUSICBIO#C2, so notability isn't a problem. I'll have a look for sources later.--Launchballer 00:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Hm. I think of the more-specific notability guidelines, for actors, books, geographic features, and other particular kinds of subjects, as being a higher hurdle rather than an alternate means of establishing notability; and the WP:MUSICBIO#C2 page says that meeting one of the listed criteria may show notability, not that it definitively establishes it. At any rate, as I said, I'm not nominating the article for deletion (though I was advised to by a more experienced editor) but you should be aware that the greater scrutiny articles on the front page receive may lead someone else to do so. Still waiting for clarification from you regarding the reliability of the charts cited for the Sigala article.
  • On to Good Times (Ella Eyre song). Conversion of the article from a redirect page happened the same day it was nominated. (If that doesn't count as new, it more than qualifies as a five-fold expansion.) It's long enough, uses NPOV and inline citations, and is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism.
  • The hook is short enough; I'll AGF that the two artists' usual styles are different enough to render the hook interesting, as I'm notoriously terrible at knowing much about most music. However, the hook fact is not supported by an inline citation in Sigala (musician) (and cited to only the liner notes in the other article — if there's a non-primary source for the song's writing credit, it should be referenced) but it is NPOV and otherwise appropriate.
  • Two QPQs done; no image.
Still need clarification of the reliability of those chart sites, and for the hook fact to be cited in both articles. Almost there. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 17:31, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't know anything about European chart sites - off they go. The hook fact is now sourced in both articles.--Launchballer 21:42, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Hook fact sourcing is not ideal but is sufficient. This DYK is now GTG, LB. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 22:13, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
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