- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
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Simp
- ... that in 1923, the New York Times published a letter decrying the cowardice of simps? Source: "CALLS BACHELORS "SIMPS."; "Afraid to Take a Chance," Says Woman Referring to Club". The New York Times. 14 May 1923. Retrieved 23 December 2020.
- ALT1:... that Archie Andrews has been described as "the simpiest of the simps"? Source:Paul, Andrew (21 July 2020). "Call Archie a "simp" at your own peril, warns Archie Comics". The A.V. Club. Retrieved 16 December 2020.
- ALT2: ... that in 1923, the New York Times published a letter decrying simps for being "afraid to take a chance"? Source: "CALLS BACHELORS "SIMPS."; "Afraid to Take a Chance," Says Woman Referring to Club". The New York Times. 14 May 1923. Retrieved 23 December 2020.
- Reviewed: Socrates Nelson
Created by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 12:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC).
- Review follows:
- New? Yes. Nominated 23 December; created 17 December.
- Long enough? Yes. 7,000+ characters.
- Enough cites? Yes. Passes the 1+ cite per graf test.
- Hook cited? Possibly. Main hook appears as a blockquote in the article, but I don't quite see
cowardice
described in the source. Maybe "criticizing simps", although that's less punchy. Alt1 is fully cited, and only slightly less punchy. - Hooks short enough? Yes.
- Copyright? Fine. Earwig initially looked chancy but it's just quotes.
- QPQ: Done.
- Other? I don't quite see the utility of the big blockquote beginning "He's from Michigan", but that's not a problem for DYK. The Twitch section may also be a bit WP:UNDUE, but I'm not that up on online happenings so it may well be DUE. I leave that to you.
Overall: just waiting for a little clarity on the main hook; I'd be fine with Alt1 too. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- In the 1923 article (which you can see in this Twitter conversation involving one of the 2020 article's authors), it says "afraid to take a chance", which I think can be reasonably summarized as "cowardice" but it'd be possible to rephrase it; adding ALT2 for a more direct parallel to the source. jp×g 06:19, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Agreed that it's a fair summary on taking another look. I actually still prefer Alt1 (Archie more recognizable than an anonymous letter-writer, and "simpiest of the simps" has a nice ring to it). Main/alt2 also fine; will leave it up to the promoter. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
