Template:Did you know nominations/Singapore Women's Hall of Fame
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 15:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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Singapore Women's Hall of Fame
edit... that the inaugural 108 inductees into the Singapore Women's Hall of Fame were selected by a committee led by Ambassador Tommy Koh?
Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 05:15, 8 November 2015 (UTC).
Well it just long enough - although there is a long well referenced list. There was no ref for the hook fact but I have added it. There is no image. Pity the hook mentions a bloke rather than a woman and the President who oversaw the award ceremony was a bloke too. No close paraphrasing spotted. I have suggested an alt with a woman in the hook. You will need to add a ref and get approval if you want to use it. However the main hook is good to go. (A woman scientist (alt2) would be an even better example - I notice there are only 2 or 3 scientists!) Victuallers (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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(ALT1).. that the first 108 members of the Singapore Women's Hall of Fame included a woman who has a mosque named after her? - .
(ALT2).. that the first 108 members of the Singapore Women's Hall of Fame included the nanotechnology researcher Jackie Yi-Ru Ying?
Thank you. When I nominated this the table wasn't there, so none of the inductees were mentioned in the article. I had actually been pondering creating a separate List of inductees in the Singapore Women's Hall of Fame article, but putting the list in the main article is fine too, so when Megalibrarygirl did that, I ran with it. I'd actually like to hold off on moving this to the main page because I think that I can make it a double DYK using the formula that you have in your alts. Masjid Hajjah Fatimah and Kanwaljit Soin are both on my shortlist. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure if it matters, but that's only half of the list of inductees. I was working on it last month, got sidetracked and when I saw the article written by The Squirrel Conspiracy (which was much better than mine!), I figured I'd add the names to help out. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- I did notice that some were missing (I checked to see how you handled the mountaineers that were inducted as a group, and realized they weren't in yet), however I had something else I was working on yesterday and haven't had the time to get everyone in. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it matters, but that's only half of the list of inductees. I was working on it last month, got sidetracked and when I saw the article written by The Squirrel Conspiracy (which was much better than mine!), I figured I'd add the names to help out. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- I can verify that the so-called "unauthorized" ALT1 and ALT2 are so stated in the list and sourced, if you feel like approving those hooks. If it helps you determine whether or not to do a separate list, there are a few on US women's halls of fame: Iowa Women's Hall of Fame, Ohio Women's Hall of Fame and Maryland Women's Hall of Fame are the longest ones I'm aware of. — Maile (talk) 23:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Hajjah Fatimah, one of the inaugural inductees into the Singapore Women's Hall of Fame, provided for the creation of a mosque that now bears her name?
- QPQ for second article: Template:Did you know nominations/Albert Stewart (rugby player)
- Victuallers, Maile66, and Megalibrarygirl: I've created a new alt, ALT3, which is a two-article DYK. I just 5x expanded Fatimah binte Sulaiman, and incorporated both articles into the new hook. Please review that hook instead of the one-article hook and alts. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:16, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- The Squirrel Conspiracy, Maile66, and Megalibrarygirl - Brilliant. I have copy edited the new article, which is a valid 5xexpansion of the stub (One of the top nine women in Singapore had a mini stub!). Its neutral and not copied as far as I saw. Are you sure the name is the most popular one? I added a free image. Sufficient good refs. I have changed the two alts to approved (as per Maille - thx!). I boldly shortened alt3. There are now two approved double hooks. Well done. I hope next year to hear that the chief judge next year is a woman ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victuallers (talk • contribs) 09:56 12 November 2015
- Victuallers: Hajjah Fatimah is by far and away the most common way she's referred to in sources, however I moved the article to where it is now because Hajjah is a title, and we don't typically seem to have titles in article names. Nevertheless, I've modified the hook to use Hajjah Fatimah. Can you re-verify the hook please? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- still fine. Do you want me to move the article to that title. Titles are not usually used but we do say Doctor Who as thats his common name ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victuallers (talk • contribs) 08:14 14 November 2015
- No thanks. I think that both are correct, I'd say leave it at the one that's more in line with the article naming guidelines. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 14:40, 14 November 2015 (UTC)