- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:28, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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Susana Bloch
... that actors have been the first to benefit from experimental psychologist Susana Bloch's Alba Emoting method, allowing them to induce any of six basic emotions (sadness, joy, anger, fear, sexuality and tenderness) "using specific respiratory, postural, and facial behaviors" then safely step out of them?- ALT1:
... that experimental psychologist Susana Bloch has been teaching actors how to physically induce any of six genuine emotions (sadness, joy, anger, fear, sexuality and tenderness) by "using specific respiratory, postural, and facial behaviors" as well as safely step out of them?
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- Reviewed: This is my first DYK nomination. Thank you for any/all input.
Created by Remando (talk). Self-nominated at 23:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC).
- Welcome to DYK, Remando! I haven't looked at the article yet, for lack of time, but just some hopefully helpful hints:
- You can bold "outside" the brackets of links which makes it easier, - done for you here.
- In such cases, an apostrophe needs a template, - done for you.
- The hooks are too long, not only formally, - they also tell too much. You want to make people get curious, not give the :impression they know it all when reading the hook.
- External links - like to the book - are a no-no, not only in hooks, also in article prose.
- Please word a new hook, and I recommend to build on the ALT. I'll watch, and possibly review when I have time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda Arendt! Here are a few more hook drafts:
- ALT2
... that long before the movie Inside Out animated our basic emotions, this scientist was helping actors access them in a practical way?
- ALT2
- Thank you, Gerda Arendt! Here are a few more hook drafts:
- ALT3
... that before the physicality of basic human emotions was this scientist's main concentration, her focus was the visual acuity of pigeons?
- ALT3
- ALT4
... that this scientist developed a practical way to access basic human emotions, saving actors from psychological effects of method acting?
- ALT4
- --Remando (talk) 17:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Remando, thank you for the offers, with good ideas, but none ready to be approved. They'd all need "... that" at the beginning. I don't think hiding her gender is a good idea, and therefore suggest to give her her name. My simple idea for a hook would be just repeat what the lead says. - Some concerns in the article:
- I'm not sure about Professor vs. professor, and Psychology vs. psychology. Please go over that, leaving only titles capital.
- Why not use the lovely image here?
- The grammar of "modulate basic emotions using the body and particular breathing patterns" - somehow doesn't work for me.
- She is very cautious about no birth year, but can anything please have a year, like graduation, move to France, whatever?
- I'm particularly curious where Arendt comes from
- Please avoid constructions such as "It was there she and ..." and "It was this collaboration ...".
- Please avoid - generally - to have a full date in md-format as an adjective, as for the Chilean coup d'état. I fixed it here.
- Check for repetition of "working".
- "where she continues to devote her time to teaching, developing new practical applications in various areas and internationally, and writing about her work" - that doesn't need any "devotion of time", and is unclear where "and internationally" connects to.
- I had no idea that "sexuality" and "tenderness" are emotions, - does that come from translation?
- "genuine, organic emotion" - what's that?
- Books and Awards need references.
- I wonder if some detail from the references should be quoted in the article, because going back and forth is tricky.
Interesting research, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Good luck. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Remando, thank you for the offers, with good ideas, but none ready to be approved. They'd all need "... that" at the beginning. I don't think hiding her gender is a good idea, and therefore suggest to give her her name. My simple idea for a hook would be just repeat what the lead says. - Some concerns in the article:
Hi Remando please respond to the above comments so that a hook can be approved. Thanks! Z1720 (talk) 14:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Z1720 and Gerda Arendt for reminder and of course thoughtful comments - So sorry I've been AWOL. Will try to respond in 24 hours. Remando (talk) 03:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you again Gerda Arendt for all your suggestions and helping me improve this piece. Apologies to you and Z1720 for my slow turnaround.
- The first hook below (ALT5) is based on the article lede; ALT6&7 are revisions of ALT2&4 respectively.
- ALT5
... that German Chilean research psychologist Susana Bloch created Alba Emoting, a technique actors have been using to access their basic emotions?
- ALT5
ALT6 ... that long before the movie Inside Out animated our basic emotions, German Chilean research psychologist Susana Bloch was helping actors access them in a practical way?
ALT7 ... that German Chilean research psychologist Susana Bloch developed a practical way to access basic human emotions, saving actors from psychological effects of method acting?
- Re article edits, have made several today based on your suggestions and tried to smooth out some of the wooden language. Still outstanding is:
- Getting her photo back up (my Bloch contact has just heard from Bloch's daughter who gives rights)
- Finding out more about where she comes from
References for Honors(done)Better dates (1960 may be her Psychology degree date - am confirming)(done)
- Also FYI:
- Re the list of emotions that included "sexuality and tenderness": I went back to the 2020 journal article and used the author's language (which is now "eroticism and tenderness") and decided to directly quote from his paper in order to clarify this choice of words. (Does that sound okay?) Remando (talk) 01:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- That sounds great to wake up to, I'll look closer later today, and if I forget ping me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:32, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- OK, finally I took another quick look. I like ALT5 best, but don't need the name of the method which sounds a bit borderline promotional. I think the film and the psychological effects are a bit of a detour. - Too tired to examine the article, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Re the list of emotions that included "sexuality and tenderness": I went back to the 2020 journal article and used the author's language (which is now "eroticism and tenderness") and decided to directly quote from his paper in order to clarify this choice of words. (Does that sound okay?) Remando (talk) 01:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- ALT8 ... that German Chilean research psychologist Susana Bloch created a technique actors have been using to access their basic emotions?
- Thanks so much Gerda Arendt. I agree completely. New ALT8 here revises ALT5. FYI was hoping to include her photo here but I am going through an undeletion request process for it. Remando (talk) 01:43, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Gerda Arendt. I agree completely. New ALT8 here revises ALT5. FYI was hoping to include her photo here but I am going through an undeletion request process for it. Remando (talk) 01:43, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
