Template:Did you know nominations/Syracuse University Alma Mater

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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 16:11, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Syracuse University Alma Mater

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Handwritten copy of the "Syracuse University Alma Mater" by Junius Stevens (circa 1893)

... that the "Syracuse University Alma Mater", written in 1893, is based on the popular Irish melody "Annie Lisle"? Source: https://vault.si.com/vault/1954/10/11/the-bands-play-on "... There is a bitterness between Syracuse and Cornell because Cornell's Far Above Cayuga's Waters is more famous than Syracuse's Where the Vale of Onondaga, though both are built on the same tune. The tune is Annie Lisle, a schmaltzy ballad of Civil War days..."
- ALT1: ... that "Syracuse University Alma Mater" was sung by the University Glee and Banjo Club on March 15, 1893, at the Wieting Opera House? Source: https://digitalexhibits.syr.edu/su150/150-years-of-tradition/songs/ "Flag we love! Orange!” wrote Junius Stevens, Class of 1895, and author of the Alma Mater of Syracuse University. The Alma Mater was first sung in public on March 15, 1893, by the University Glee and Banjo Club in a concert at the Wieting Opera House in Syracuse..."
- ALT2: ... that the lyrics to? "Syracuse University Alma Mater", written in 1893, were ammendeded in 1986 to to honor the institution's coeducational roots. Source: https://surface.syr.edu/sumagazine/vol2/iss3/3/ Changing Our Tune", 1986, Article by economics faculty member professor Aubrey Dale Tussing discusses his efforts to effect this change.
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- Comment: I tried submitting DYK once, but I didn't know enough back then, may be I will get it this time. Don't know if this image is any good; there's an oil-painting of the guy who wrote it.. may be that will be better; there are multiple images there...

Improved to Good Article status by Kiran891 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Syracuse University Alma Mater; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - n

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Kiran891: Good article. Though, is there a better hook that could be made? alt1 isn't that interesting while alt0 could work but I feel like it also couldn't. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset and Onegreatjoke:, I have added another hook now. Between alt0 and alt2, I think there's good chance for status to change.

@Kiran891: Hook is still not good. Firstly, it should only be one sentence. Second, stuff "that (the lyrics to?)" and "was (were)". lastly, hook looks too long. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:32, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Hi Onegreatjoke, I would like to withdraw this nom as I can't see myself coming up with an interesting enough hook. I did shorten ALT2 a bit. Kiran_891 ^(TALK) 09:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)