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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 02:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Tibet Improvement Party, Pandatsang Rapga

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Created/expanded by Lhandoa (talk). Nominated by Benlisquare (talk) at 10:23, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

  • It should be 14th Dalai Lama, not 13th. It was founded after the 13th died.Lhandoa (talk) 23:21, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Size and date check out for both, but the hook is problematic. In addition to the issue raised by the creator (and not clearly covered in the article), I cannot verify the hook claim (about the opposition to the leader). Perhaps it comes from the very extensive quotations in reference (MoS problem here, see Wikipedia:Quotations. It would be nice to see those articles DYKed, but the above issues need to be addressed. Please ping me on my talk page if you want another review from me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 23:49, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Changed "opposed the rule of the 14th Dalai Lama" to "opposed the rule of the Dalai Lama government". Regarding the claim "founded in 1939 by Pandatsang Ragpa", citation 4 (Goldstein) from the TIP article confirms this. (Quote: "The Tibet Improvement Party was founded and led by Pandatsang Rapga, a somewhat idealistic Khamba nationalist and intellectual... He started the Tibet Improvement Party in Kalimpong in 1939, with Canglocen Kung and Kumbela") Regarding "opposed the rule of the Dalai Lama government", citation 4 (Goldstein) from both articles confirm this (Quote: "was convinced that the present Tibetan government was hopelessly ill-suited for the modern world"). Regarding "was supported by the Kuomintang in China", citation 8 (Lin) from the TIP article supports this. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 05:45, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
I think he is refering to the quotations within the citation templates, not in the article. And thats not a problem at all. All we need to do is to delete any part of the quote you want. They can all be removed entirely very easily be just selecting them and deleting them. Tell me how many words are allowed in each quote, and it can be trimmed.Lhandoa (talk) 07:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
I used the Dalai Lama government as an alternate term for the Tibetan government. Its like saying someone opposed hitler government, if the source said they opposed the nazi government. You can change it to "Tibetan Government" instead of Dalai Lama if rules require that the exact wording in the source be used. Apologies for dragging nazis into the argument but it was the first example I could think of. And I do not mean in any way to compare the dalai lama to hitler, it is just an exampleLhandoa (talk) 07:28, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
I retract the horrible example of hitler, its like if I substituted it for if someone opposed the (insert name of leader) government, if the source said they opposed the (name of state) government.Lhandoa (talk) 07:39, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Seems DYKable now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 13:13, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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