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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 02:15, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self nominated at 08:15, 1 February 2014 (UTC).

  • Appropriate length, interesting, and high EV. (though I'm new here) --HectorMoffet (talk) 18:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Comments: I don't understand the hook. Rare stuffs naturally cost a lot, so "as much as ... despite" doesn't seem right. Do you mean "cost merely $400, despite..."? Or "... and this is available despite..."? --PFHLai (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes, the hook doesn't make sense, and I've struck it. Apparently what was intended was something like:
  • ALT1: ... that tiger penis soup, available despite tigers being a protected endangered species, can cost as much as $400 USD per bowl? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:35, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm fine with ALT1 because it reduces potential ambiguity. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:59, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
to ALT1. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 12:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
  • An article that starts off with Tiger penis soup is a soup prepared with tiger penis. Tigers are an endangered, protected species. It is illegal in some countries to consume tiger, and it has been stated that consumption of tiger is unethical due to the animal's endangered status is problematic almost by definition. Not only are there neutrality issues, the prose is jerky, darts backwards and forwards, and lacks structural coherence. Needs serious copyedit to present the subject in a more organised and neutral manner. -- Ohc ¡digame! 09:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I have no more issues as to NPOV, as it's a very considerable improvement. Keep up the good work. -- Ohc ¡digame! 10:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
  • propose ALT2: ... that as Tiger penis soup can command US$300 a bowl, its key ingredient has been counterfeited in China and Hong Kong? -- Ohc ¡digame! 04:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
  • ALT2 reads a little choppy, with perhaps too many concepts combined into the hook, in my opinion. However, I appreciate and respect others' opinions and ideas. I prefer ALT1. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
  • After thinking about it, the hook and the ALT1 read like relics of the article before it was rewritten, like a political statement that CITES was being ignored. I'd prefer to see something less "serious", but more fun and capable of steering readers to the article, where they will find out the tiger's ecological status. I don't think the concepts in ALT2 are any more complex than ALT1. Maybe it's just my clunky style. I propose ALT2a: ... that Tiger penis soup can command US$300 a bowl, and its key ingredient has been counterfeited in China and Hong Kong?
  • or ALT2b: ... that tiger penis soup can command US$300 a bowl, and its key ingredient has been counterfeited? -- Ohc ¡digame! 02:16, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
  • to ALT2b. --PFHLai (talk) 23:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
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