- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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Toshio Hosokawa
edit... that Toshio Hosokawa composed an oratorio Voiceless Voice in Hiroshima?Source: several- ALT1:... that Toshio Hosokawa composed several operas based on Japanese Noh theatre, including Vision of Lear after Shakespeare? Source: several
- Reviewed: Helen Hays (ornithologist)
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. Hooks are cited inline and are interesting; I think ALT1 is the better of the two hooks and appeals to the broadest audience. QPQ has been provided. I am assuming good faith for the sources in German. Although optional and not a point against against the nomination, I'd suggest you try also adding some Japanese sources, though it's fine if you don't if the language barrier makes it difficult; as I said, this is only a suggestion. The problem here is that the "Compositions" section is mostly unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:33, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. Published works can be found in authority control. I didn't write the list of works, but now added what IRCAM has, and the German National Library, + his publisher Schott, ref #1, has a detailed list, go to the biography and click on "Works". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I suppose this is good to go then. Striking ALT0 as being the inferior hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:04, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, misspelled the name of the opera. Why you'd think Hiroshima is inferior, I don't know. I think more readers would associate something with that than with Lear, perhaps even Shakespeare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- It's honestly not very appealing to a broad audience, especially compared to the second one which shows a fairly unusual relationship (opera and Noh). The first hook is not really hooky; it would be like a hook saying '... that Michael Jackson produced an anti-famine song, "We Are The World"?'.Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:32, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- "Hiroshima" seems to carry much more emotional connotations than "We are the world", or "opera and Noh". - I don't want you to change your mind, just understand better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- It's honestly not very appealing to a broad audience, especially compared to the second one which shows a fairly unusual relationship (opera and Noh). The first hook is not really hooky; it would be like a hook saying '... that Michael Jackson produced an anti-famine song, "We Are The World"?'.Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:32, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, misspelled the name of the opera. Why you'd think Hiroshima is inferior, I don't know. I think more readers would associate something with that than with Lear, perhaps even Shakespeare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
