Template:Did you know nominations/Treaty of Waitangi
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 01:05, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
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Treaty of Waitangi
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The 9 sheets of the Treaty of Waitangi
... that New Zealand's founding document, the Treaty of Waitangi (pictured), barely escaped burning in a fire and was then lost for several decades, before being discovered in a damp basement heavily water damaged and chewed by rodents? Source: "They narrowly escaped being destroyed in a fire in 1841 and were poorly housed throughout the rest of the century. They were discovered badly damaged by water and partially eaten by rats in the basement of Government Buildings in 1908"[1], "The Treaty of Waitangi is the founding document of New Zealand." [2]- ALT1:... that New Zealand's founding document, the Treaty of Waitangi (pictured), barely escaped burning in a fire, was then lost for several decades, and then found in a damp basement heavily water damaged and chewed by rodents? Source: "They narrowly escaped being destroyed in a fire in 1841 and were poorly housed throughout the rest of the century. They were discovered badly damaged by water and partially eaten by rats in the basement of Government Buildings in 1908"[3], "The Treaty of Waitangi is the founding document of New Zealand." [4]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of women cabinet ministers of the Republic of Ireland (also only my 5th Nomination)
- Comment: NOTE: I am hoping we can set this aside to go up on the 6th of February (Waitangi Day) New Zealand Time.
Improved to Good Article status by Insertcleverphrasehere (talk). Self-nominated at 11:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC).
.My main concern is that the hook is too long, I think it should be shortened. Moreover, The article suggests that the treaty is regarded New Zealand's founding document, which is a POV, while the hook states that this is a fact.Borsoka (talk) 15:50, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- It is only 186 characters, without formatting characters and (pictured) (which the guide says do not count), however, I have striped off a few characters in the ALT 1 variant (down to 175). Let me know which you prefer. The treaty is regarded by everyone as the founding document, and in fact the source cited above just states it as an outright fact as well, so I think we can get away with that without issue. Thanks for the review, let me know if there are any other issues. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 18:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1 is fine.
Sorry, I still think that the wording in the article - "the Treaty is generally regarded by historians as the founding document of New Zealand" and "it is nevertheless widely regarded as the founding document of New Zealand" - is not fully in line with the hook. Maybe the relevant sentences in the article should be changed. (Reference 9 in the article is a blind link.)Borsoka (talk) 02:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Done.I checked the source again. It is definitive, the result of it looking pov was a bit of unintentional editorializing on my part.— Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)
. Hook is interesting and neutral. Hook fact is verified by inline citation. ALT1 is good to go. Borsoka (talk) 05:02, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Insertcleverphrasehere: I added a cite to the list of treaty versions, per Rule D2. I also combined two paragraphs because the second didn't have a cite, and I want to promote this. Please verify what I did and, if you could add more cites, please do. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:05, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1 is fine.
- It is only 186 characters, without formatting characters and (pictured) (which the guide says do not count), however, I have striped off a few characters in the ALT 1 variant (down to 175). Let me know which you prefer. The treaty is regarded by everyone as the founding document, and in fact the source cited above just states it as an outright fact as well, so I think we can get away with that without issue. Thanks for the review, let me know if there are any other issues. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 18:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
