Template:Did you know nominations/Tropical Storm Kai-tak
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Ratekreel talk 08:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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Tropical Storm Kai-tak
- ... that the government used military trucks and bulldozers to rescue people from a tropical storm?
- Source: Bulldozers Military trucks
Improved to Good Article status by TheNuggeteer (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
01:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
- Article is in good shape, recently promoted to GA. The hook checks, though the provided source on bulldozers was incorrect -- I have changed it. It might not be the most interesting, given that trucks and bulldozers are commonly used in disaster recovery operations -- could you perhaps suggest a few ALTs?
- I would like to see source data information for File:Urduja 17 Animation.gif, but that is not strictly a requirement for GA, and the article would also benefit from some further copyediting. I can find no evidence of the supposed CC1.0 licence on File:Kai-tak imerg 13-18 december 2017 animated.gif and File:Analysis of Tropical Storm Kai-Tak.jpg, but both should be PD as the work of a US government employee. I can find no other copyvio, BLP or other serious concerns.
- QPQ needs to be done. UndercoverClassicist T路C 16:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weird, but I'll try: ALT1: ... that Tropical Storm Kai-tak weakened and strengthened multiple times? [1] [2].
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
04:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weird, but I'll try: ALT1: ... that Tropical Storm Kai-tak weakened and strengthened multiple times? [1] [2].
- Again, I'm not sure we've passed the threshold of interest there -- most tropical storms do that, and it's not particularly interesting that they do. Per WP:DYKINT:
The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest
. Can you find anything in the article that would meet that -- for example, things which apply only to this particular storm, or might otherwise be surprising and motivate a reader to click on the article? UndercoverClassicist T路C 08:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, I'm not sure we've passed the threshold of interest there -- most tropical storms do that, and it's not particularly interesting that they do. Per WP:DYKINT:
- @TheNuggeteer: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination may be closed without warning if one is not given within a reasonable timeframe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk 路 contributions) 09:53, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ooh! Found an interesting one. ALT2: ...that while soldiers carried out relief operations for Tropical Storm Kai-tak, the New People's Army attacked them? SRC2
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
04:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Pinging.
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
04:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think the text of that one is good -- perhaps creates the false suggestion that the NPA was doing the rescue operation, though. I don't know the source very well but it smells a bit local/tabloidy to me -- have I read that wrong, or do we have a more authoritative source to corroborate? UndercoverClassicist T路C 06:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, definitely local. But the source is regional, and has a three-or-four person editorial team, changed the wording of the hook a bit.
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
09:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great -- I've made a couple of my own tweaks for grammar, repetition and concision. We don't generally consider local news or tabloid journalism to be WP:RS -- did it make national or international news? UndercoverClassicist T路C 10:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- What do you mean? The journal itself made national news on other news sources or the journal made national news?
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
11:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Do we have a source that would qualify under WP:RS that supports this hook -- for instance, a piece of national or international news? UndercoverClassicist T路C 13:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- What do you mean? The journal itself made national news on other news sources or the journal made national news?
- Yep, definitely local. But the source is regional, and has a three-or-four person editorial team, changed the wording of the hook a bit.
- @UndercoverClassicist: Pinging.
- Ooh! Found an interesting one. ALT2: ...that while soldiers carried out relief operations for Tropical Storm Kai-tak, the New People's Army attacked them? SRC2
Found an article by the Straits Times.
馃崡TheNuggeteer馃崡
04:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- That'll do it: approved ALT2. UndercoverClassicist T路C 06:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)