Template:Did you know nominations/Tsarevich Ivan Dmitriyevich

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The result was: rejected by PFHLai (talk) 10:39, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Tsarevich Ivan Dmitriyevich

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• ... that "Tsarevich" Ivan Dmitriyevich was only three years old when he was executed?

Created/expanded by Alexcoldcasefan (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

• Does the article really say, "spotted by a plotter and he was shot on the spot"? Sounds like Dr. Seuss. This article is not fully referenced. It draws heavily from Russian-language Wikipedia and uses that unreliable source as a reference seven times. Stripped of that reference there is only one left. Binksternet (talk) 04:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

• Well, if you do not trust this source, google "Tsarevich Ivan Dmitriyevich" and see that you will find all of the things referenced from ru.wikipedia. --Alexcoldcasefan 08:09, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

• I am just pointing out that the article does not meet DYK rules if Russian Wikipedia is the main reference. I know that I can research the subject and find out better sources. You can, too. That's not the point... the point is that the article needs to have non-Wikipedia references, more than just the one remaining after Russian Wikipedia is removed. Binksternet (talk) 14:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

• I have removed the Russian Wikipedia source per WP:PSTS: "Wikipedia articles may not be used as tertiary sources in other Wikipedia articles". Binksternet (talk) 09:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

• This DYK nomination is heading nowhere unless the article can be supported with reliable sources, one per paragraph at a minimum. Binksternet (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2011 (UTC)