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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

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United States Lake Survey

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  • ... that during World War II, the United States Lake Survey published 370 tons of maps, 8,109 different charts and maps, and distributed 9,190,000 copies to the armed forces? Source: Woodford, Arthur M. (1991). Charting the Inland Seas: A History of the U.S. Lake Survey (PDF). Detroit, Michigan: United States Army. pp.137–143.
    • ALT1:... that during the American Civil War, the United States Lake Survey was the only active topographical field office? Source: Person, Gustav J. (2010). Captain George G. Meade and the United States Lake Survey (PDF). United States Army. p.46

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC).

  •  Doing... beginning review now. Flibirigit (talk) 13:55, 3 September 2018 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Flibirigit (talk) 14:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

There is significant close paraphrasing as per the Earwig analysis Areas highlighted in red need to be addressed, except for proper nouns. I am not seeing either hook explicitly discussed within the text of the article. Did I miss something there? Otherwise, this is a good article, that I want to see passed. Flibirigit (talk) 14:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

    • Flibirigit: The sources are in the public domain, as they are works of the United States Army, see Template:PD-USGov-Military-Army. the hook is in the article as "Upon the outbreak of World War II, the survey began working in various war capacities. It published a "Submarine Training Chart of Upper Lake Michigan." pamphlet. The Lake Survey, with its cartographic and lithographic specialists, directed a major portion of the military's mapping activity. It took over and consolidated the former WPA cartographic units in New York, Chicago, and Detroit on 1 June 1942. It published 370 tons of maps, producing 8,109 different charts and maps, printing and distributing 9,190,000 copies to the armed forces." ALT1 is in text as "James D. Graham replaced Meade in 1861, and led the survey through much of the Civil War, during which it was the only active topographical field office still operating." Eddie891 Talk Work 14:23, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I will revisit in more detail tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 16:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I see the cited information now for the hooks. Sorry, I must not have been awake yesterday morning. As for the copyright concerns, did you mean to refer to Template:PD-notice instead of Template:PD-USGov-Military-Army? Flibirigit (talk) 20:15, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, not sure how the template mess-up got made. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:15, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for updating the template. I think some text should be reorganized, or the introduction updated. For example the introduction mentions "76 charts" but I can't find that in the body of the article. Also it seems redundant to mention "New York State Barge Canal System, Lake Champlain and the Minnesota-Ontario Border Lakes" in consecutive paragraphs in the introduction. Flibirigit (talk) 13:53, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Done. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks @Eddie891:. I see there's a disambiguation issue with William Williams. Could you see if anyone at the disambiguation list if the correct person? If not, it's better to delink the name. Flibirigit (talk) 23:46, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
De linked. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:49, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I think this is very close to being finished. I will finish reviewing in the moring. Flibirigit (talk) 00:23, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
@Eddie891: the introduction mentions the waters on the border of Minnesota and Ontario... but I can't find mention of it later in the article. Am I missing something there? Flibirigit (talk) 14:17, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Got it. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:47, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
This looks good to go now, ALT0 preferred, but either hook is acceptable. Thanks for writing. Flibirigit (talk) 02:09, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Flibirigit. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:14, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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