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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:23, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

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Walt Nauta

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Created by Muboshgu (talk). Nominated by Longhornsg (talk) at 04:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Walt Nauta; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Needs one proper ref, and QPQ. Also, the last three sentences need a bit of polishing, to explain "all case-related discussions" with whom. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A491:803D:ABC:2E20 (talk) 21:15, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

a) As to the mentioned discussion of case-related discussions, I still find the article unclear. Discussions with whom? The text should clarify that. b) prior comment was that "one (indicated with tag) statement needs a ref". That has now been addressed. c) QPQ had not been done, but now has been done.2603:7000:2101:AA00:A491:803D:ABC:2E20 (talk) 04:53, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Just removed the line because it wasn't additive Longhornsg (talk) 05:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Now good to go. But I have a preferred suggestion. See Alt 1 above. Add the words “on a silver platter.” Much more powerful. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:A491:803D:ABC:2E20 (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
I prefer ALT0 as more accurate since the silver platter was not always involved. I have formatted one reference in the article and archived others. I am concerned by the 73% Earwig score. The two sites with the 73% match are hard to get to. Bruxton (talk) 22:59, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
I’m unclear as to the basis for your assertion. The RS does not say “sometimes.” Rather - It says “In Mr Trump’s case, this would reportedly involve bringing him Diet Cokes on a silver platter when he pressed the presidential call button on the Resolute desk in the Oval Office.” There’s no way to read “sometimes but not all the time” into that - which is what you assert. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:B8E7:A9D8:D8B8:C23C (talk) 08:30, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
@RoySmith: Can I get your opinion on the Earwig score and the possibility of mirrors? Bruxton (talk) 14:56, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
The elephant in the room is tempoonline.com.ng. I looked in archive.org to see if they had any history for the page. They don't. That doesn't prove anything (but finding history which predated our article would pretty much have proved that we copied from them). But overall, tempoonline.com.ng sure looks like some crappy click-bait SEO spam sewer. So I wouldn't worry about it. Further down the list, there's text in common with usatoday.com, etc, but it all looks like stuff that couldn't be phrased any other way, so also nothing to worry about. RoySmith (talk) 15:30, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
Rephrasing and trimming ALT0 (I feel the additional length of ALT1 actually inhibits the hook's strength) to produce the following:
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:07, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
@RoySmith: @Bruxton: @AirshipJungleman29: Appreciate your work on this. Given the subject's high profile in the news right now, thoughts on adding the picture of Nauta from his article to the DYK? It's sourced from the US Federal Government, so no copyright issues there.
I'm still (I'm the above IP, who did the QPQ) partial to including the "on a silver platter" phrase with whatever hook we go with. Given its common usage, it provides powerful context and greater hookiness in my view. As to the image, I was wondering as well. My only hesitation is whether it is high enough quality. I'm 50-50 on that myself.2603:7000:2101:AA00:602C:68B0:7AF5:B5D4 (talk) 20:25, 21 June 2023 (UTC)



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