Template:Did you know nominations/Writing lines

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:46, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Writing lines

An example of writing lines assigned as punishment
An example of writing lines assigned as punishment
  • ... that writing lines (pictured) has survived even as other forms of school discipline have fallen out of favour? Source: Schaffner 2019, p. 14 "Even as paddles and dunce caps have fallen from favor, punishment writing has remained a viable disciplinary technique. In one study from the 1980s, over half of teachers polled indicated a familiarity with the use of writing as punishment in schools."
    • ALT1:... that many episodes of The Simpsons begin with Bart Simpson writing lines on a chalkboard? Source: Schaffner 2019, p. 14 "Each episode of The Simpsons television show begins with Bart Simpson writing lines on a chalkboard at the front of his classroom, as rote punishment writing has become a symbol of futile, old-fashioned, one-size-fits-all schoolhouse discipline."

Converted from a redirect by 59.149.124.29 (talk). Nominated by Feminist (talk) at 09:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC).

  • This was an article pre-2008, when it was redirected. This is sufficiently different from the redirected version that it meets the newness criteria. Article is long enough and well sourced, appears to be written neutrally. AGF on offline sources. Really more sources than two books would be helpful, as would more historical context, but this is sufficient for DYK purposes. QPQ is done. I think the Simpsons hook may get more views, but the choice is to the promoter. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:02, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this. If you want ALT1, you need to add the hook fact to the article. All it says now is: "as in the chalkboard gag shown at the beginning of many episodes of The Simpsons." I would like to promote this to an image slot, but the article is rather bare on references for what is not an obscure topic. Yoninah (talk) 21:43, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I've added the ALT1 hook fact as requested. I'll see if I can expand this article over the next few days or so. Unfortunately any scene from the Simpsons would probably not be OK for the image slot (as it's non-free content), and I'm not sure if showing the current image with the Simpsons hook would be confusing to a reader. feminist (talk) 03:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Personally, I think that the answer to the question "Did you know ...?" should always be "no"; that's not the case for ALT1. I would prefer combining the hooks:
  • ALT2: ... that writing lines (pictured), as cartoon character Bart Simpson does on a chalkboard, has survived even as other forms of school discipline have fallen out of favor?
  • I have no objection to the other hooks; just my personal preference. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 08:12, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, I think your ALT2 is a good idea, Mandarax; it also accommodates the image from Bhutan, whereas ALT1 does not. Yoninah (talk) 13:43, 27 September 2019 (UTC)