Template:Did you know nominations/Zheng Pingru

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Zheng Pingru

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Zheng Pingru

... that Chinese spy Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after her failed attempt to assassinate a Japanese collaborator, is believed to be the inspiration for the film Lust, Caution? Source: Women Warriors and Wartime Spies of China, From Eileen Chang to Ang Lee: Lust/Caution

Reviewed: Alysa Liu

Created by Megalibrarygirl (talk) and Zanhe (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 22:07, 15 July 2018 (UTC).

Refs, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ. Was an interesting read, thanks! Its good to go. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:16, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

I am not happy to promote this hook as written. Could it be reworded to

ALT1 ... that Chinese resistance fighter Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after an assassination attempt on a Japanese collaborator, is believed to be the inspiration for the film Lust, Caution? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:40, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

I like the hook, and I slightly prefer the second hook, but I'm ok with both. RileyBugz^{私に叫ぼう}_私の編集 16:45, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

She was the inspiration for the book character, which was subsequently turned into a film. This should be mentioned.

ALT3: that Chinese resistance fighter Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after an assassination attempt on a Japanese collaborator, is believed to be the inspiration for the novella Lust, Caution, and its subsequent film adaptation?

It's a bit long, but at least it's accurate. @Cwmhiraeth, RileyBugz, Zanhe, and LouisAragon: What do you think? Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

At 232 characters (or 221 without the "pictured"), it exceeds the limit of 200 characters. Alt3a would be short enough

ALT3a ... that Chinese resistance fighter Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after an assassination attempt on a Japanese collaborator, is believed to be the inspiration for a book and its film adaptation? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:36, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth and Anarchyte: I feel like it is very important to mention the name of the book, since it gives context to the genre of it. I therefore suggest:

ALT4 ... that Chinese resistance fighter Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after an assassination attempt on a Japanese collaborator, is believed to be the inspiration for the book and film Lust, Caution?

What are your thoughts on that? RileyBugz^{私に叫ぼう}_私の編集 13:50, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@RileyBugz: My problem with that is that it mentions the film name, not the book, which came first.

AlT4a: that Chinese resistance fighter Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after an assassination attempt on a Japanese collaborator, is believed to have inspired Lust, Caution, and the film adaptation?

4a clocks in at 201 characters, not including the "..." but including "that". Anarchyte (work | talk) 14:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Anarchyte: Let's just IAR on this and do my suggestion, with the addition of "its" and "adaptation"; I feel like its important to mention the medium of both works. RileyBugz^{私に叫ぼう}_私の編集 14:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@RileyBugz: IARing for a couple of characters might be acceptable, but let's make sure the hook has the original work in full text, not the adaptation. @Cwmhiraeth: We could shave off a few characters by reducing resistance fighter to spy, as that's what the article describes her as in the lead. Anarchyte (work | talk) 14:20, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

AlT4b: that Chinese spy Zheng Pingru (pictured), who was executed after an assassination attempt on a Japanese collaborator, is believed to have inspired the novella Lust, Caution, and its film adaptation?

Clocks in at 198, again not counting the ellipsis. Anarchyte (work | talk) 14:20, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

The hook looks good, then. It comes in at 188 characters if you remove the "(pictured)". RileyBugz^{私に叫ぼう}_私の編集 14:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

If you are happy with AlT4b then let it be, but her activities involving spying on an occupying power made her a resistance fighter and not a spy in my opinion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)