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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:59, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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Radar angels
- ... that angels seen radiating outward on an experimental radar led to the discovery of a curious flocking behavior of starlings? Gough 141
- Reviewed: Whichever one was unused in Integer BASIC
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 16:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. I am a little concerned about the sourcing - #1 doesn't mention birds and yet a section talking about birds is sourced to it, #4 does not mention "angel" or "angels". I didn't see any copyvio or plagiarism. I am not sure that the hook which talks of a "discovery" is supported by the in article text. "Whichever one was unused in Integer BASIC", does that mean that you have an unused QPQ DYK somewhere? Interesting topic, but needs some work before it can go to the main page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- It is not sourced to 1, it is sourced to 3.
- I am holding a copy of the book in my hand, "angels" is mentioned repeatedly on pages 140 and 141, and to a lesser extent on other pages. For instance, "Since that time, Angels have been observed on all modern surveillance radars..."
- 3 has half a page devoted to it.
- Yes. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- In this case, it seems like you want to write about the discovery in the article. Also, I got the reference numbers confused but #5 still does not mention "angels" as far as I can see. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The mystery was solved"... when the team discovered the birds in the trees. Perhaps you are using the definition of "discovery" which implies some sort of "first" or "pioneering" - compare and contrast "the discovery of penicillin" with "I discovered my glasses were on my head the whole time". I am using the term in the sense of the second example. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:48, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, OK, that was the item. Only thing left is the #5 source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:20, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- If #5 was the one about the MCL, that's because they didn't call them that, but it was the same effect. The MCL didn't have a radar display, it had chart recorders like on a polygraph, so the outcome was an earthquake not a splotch. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 19:32, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- If #5 was the one about the MCL, that's because they didn't call them that, but it was the same effect. The MCL didn't have a radar display, it had chart recorders like on a polygraph, so the outcome was an earthquake not a splotch. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, OK, that was the item. Only thing left is the #5 source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:20, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- "The mystery was solved"... when the team discovered the birds in the trees. Perhaps you are using the definition of "discovery" which implies some sort of "first" or "pioneering" - compare and contrast "the discovery of penicillin" with "I discovered my glasses were on my head the whole time". I am using the term in the sense of the second example. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:48, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
