Template talk:British legislation lists

Condensed version

I have created a condensed version of this template (Template:British legislation lists, Acts) to be used in Acts of Parliament articles. Road Wizard 19:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Intrusive template

This is a very intrusive template. It almost takes up half my screen! Does it really have to list every decade for acts and every year for statutory instruments? Caveat lector 01:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I will see what I can do to improve the template. The problem lies with trying to find the correct balance between readability and functionality. Road Wizard 08:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

The problem is, quite obviously, that 400px is way too wide for a sidebox on a 800x600 screen. Half that would be much more reasonable, even on 1024x600. Circeus 12:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that would come under the readability aspect I mentioned before. As I said, I will see what I can do. Road Wizard 12:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I have now created a set of potential replacements in my sandbox. The UK SI one is for use on the UK Statutory Instrument pages, with similar purposes for the Scottish & Welsh SI and Northern Ireland SR & O ones. I think a slightly modified version of Template:British legislation lists, Acts can be used for the Acts of Parliament list pages. I would appreciate comments, especially those about whether I have got the balance right between readability and functionality. Road Wizard 14:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

They're grand, although if we're going to have separate templates for each region of the UK, we might consider just linking to the legislation that is relevant for the region: the Northern Ireland template would not need links to Scottish, pre-union English statutes or pre-1800 acts of the UK parliament. I had already done up narrower template that covers all the same links as the current one in my sandbox if you want to have a look at that one. It would at least save us the trouble of changing all the template links. -- Caveat lector 02:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added suggested regional templates to my sandbox. -- Caveat lector 02:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't think the separate template idea would work if we removed the links between the separate areas (when I find items to add to the UK SI list I sometimes find one for the NI list as well, so I would like a quick link between them). The reason I was splitting them into separate templates was that I thought editors wouldn't appreciate a very long thin template. However, if you don't see a problem with it, we can just use the first one you have done, though it might be best to rephrase the top section to "Acts of the Scottish Parliament to 1707" and "Acts of the Irish Parliament to 1800" - this is less ambiguous and fits with the English ones above. Road Wizard 11:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The only reason I went with "Acts of the pre-Union Parliament" is that someone who didn't know when the respective Acts of Union were passed might think that there were acts of the Irish and Scottish Parliaments after 1800 and 1707 respectively. It does kind of give that impression. -- Caveat lector 13:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, by the same measure, someone may have the same thoughts about the English Parliament, which also ceased to exist because of the Act of Union. Whichever way you want to phrase it, the English, Scottish and Irish links should be consistent. Road Wizard 18:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, what about now? If this doesn't cut the mustard we just go with what you said. -- Caveat lector 23:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

(ps just go ahead and edit the sandbox if you think of any changes. -- Caveat lector 23:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

I suggest you use what you have now. At the very worst, it will get some of the other editors' attention and broaden this debate a bit. :) Road Wizard 19:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. I hope I haven't been too annoying! -- Caveat lector 00:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Church measures

in what sense are CofE Measures "British legislation"? - I daresay you're right, they have the force of law, or somesuch; but it would be nice to have an article Church of England measures which discussed the issue. Omicron18 15:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

After performing a search using Google, I have found that the explanation is already contained in the article General Synod. I would suggest turning the Church of England measures link into a redirect to that article, or alternatively you may wish to create a new article based on the existing information. Road Wizard 18:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Chronological order

Perhaps… maybe… if the links were in chronological order, it would be easier to read? There's no reason to put the latest years at the top… this is a historical template not a pop culture reference. —GoldRingChip 00:23, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

• I've made the change. I don't think this is radical, as it's done in many other templates. Feel free, however, to discuss here. —GoldRingChip 01:08, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I get the change in ordering, but now there's an inconsistency - it starts with the most recent set at the top (UK acts) then gets progressively older (Great Britain, England, etc.) so the groups are now listed the opposite way to the years within them. Mauls (talk) 09:23, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

• Indeed, you're right; I had not thought about that. Would you care to tweak that problem? —GoldRingChip 11:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)