Template talk:Buildings in Southampton

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Waggers in topic Reorganisation

Demolished buildings

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Should demolished buildings, such as Television Centre, Southampton be listed on here? If so, should they go under "other" or a new "demolished" section? WaggersTALK 09:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Good idea - I suggest that a new section would be appropriate. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 11:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Reorganisation

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This template was previously sorted into categories according to their heritage listing (grade I, grade II, etc), with additional categories for non-listed notable buildings and demolished buildings. User:SilkTork has evidently taken a unilateral decision to reorganise the template into building usage categories as opposed to heritage status categories - with the odd exception that Grade I buildings still have their own category. This causes a number of issues, perhaps most obviously that several religious buildings (one of SilkTork's new categories) are also Grade I listed, so they fit into multiple categories. It also causes issues with other buildings, such as Townhill Park House which is currently used as a school. Indeed, many buildings are multipurpose in nature (churches often meet in schools on Sundays; schools sometimes use church buildings for exams or additional teaching space during the week) and in some cases usage has changed over time (buildings that were originally churches are now pubs or community centres; country houses have become schools or museums).

With the heritage listing it was clear and inherent where each building should belong. While I don't object to the principle of using a different set of groups, it needs to be very clear which buildings should belong to which group (is it current primary use / original intended primary use / something else?) and each building should belong to just one group. I also think that consensus should be obtained here on the talk page for such a big change. WaggersTALK 10:26, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

It's also worth mentioning that, judging by a quick bit of spot-checking, most of the templates in Category:United Kingdom buildings and structures templates are grouped by heritage status, although a few odd exceptions such as Template:Brighton and Hove buildings use a similar approach to SilkTork's new groups - but it's a different list of groups and uses different names (e.g. "Places of worship" versus "Religious buildings"). Perhaps this needs discussion at WP:UKGEO to try and get some consistency across all of these templates. WaggersTALK 10:37, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
Done - see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#United_Kingdom_buildings_and_structures_templates WaggersTALK 10:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
The archived discussion is here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography/Archive_17#United_Kingdom_buildings_and_structures_templates. WaggersTALK 15:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Reply