Template talk:Cabinet Erdoğan I

Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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Template:Erdogan I Cabinet → Template:Erdoğan I Cabinet —

• Spelling. Randam (talk) 00:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
• First, WP:UE would suggest that we don't use the diacritics unless they're widely-used in English sources. Second, this is a template, and there should be compelling reasons for changing the name of a template, since this tends to break things and the names aren't usually shown to the reader anyway. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 10:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:UE doesn't have a bias in favor of or against diacritics. If English-language sources have adopted a convention for writing the name Erdoğan without the breve, then we should write it without the breve. If a source writing about Erdoğan simply strips all diacritics or retains them even when they are by convention not used in English (like in "Mexico"), this tells us nothing about how the name Erdoğan is written in English; it just tells us about the general orthographic style of the source. I can't be bothered to do an exhaustive search, but Britannica, for one, is a source that omits diacritics when they are conventionally omitted in English, but does not omit them indiscriminately, and it uses the breve[1]. --Atemperman (talk) 21:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

That is less important than the fact that this is a template, and that the proposed change is merely a cosmetic one. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 14:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

• Support We should go by what English language publications from Turkey use. This ultimately boils down to national varieties of English, and there is a clear link to Turkey in this case. English may not be widely spoken in Turkey (though with increased tourism that has changed somewhat), but the country does have an English language press and publications, in addition to the Turkish language publishing industry. Skinsmoke (talk) 01:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't see why that should mean we make a cosmetic change to a template name. These names should be first and foremost editor-friendly, since they are not displayed to readers. The vast majority of people are unable to type ğ. As long as the template content correctly shows a ğ, this is a non-issue. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 14:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
• Comment All editors are able to type ğ. On the edit page all they have to do is use the dropdown menu below Save page etc and choose Latin. Then copy and paste the ğ. It's not brain surgery, for God's sake! Skinsmoke (talk) 17:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
  • That's not typing. As far as I can see, valid reasoms for moving a template are that its description is wholly inaccurate, or a change required by complex transclusion (e.g. the {{convert}} subtemplates) - I don't see how the article title rules apply here, this not being an article. One letter missing a diacritic is not something that requires a template be moved. Template names are not visible to the reader, they are only relevant to editors, the vast majority of which do not have ğ on their keyboards. 81.111.114.131 (talk) 14:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.